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2001 grand am radio staying on after off

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Topic: 2001 grand am radio staying on after off

Posted By: eldon
Subject: 2001 grand am radio staying on after off
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 6:58 AM

Have a 2001 Pontiac Grand Am that I put a starter in and after the car is turned off the radio will stay on.

Used an Ultra Start, anyone have this problem??

I could fix it by running another accessory for the radio but wondering if there is something else causing it???

Thanks!



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Posted By: green6767
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 7:32 AM
is it staying on after you remove the key, or is it staying on after being shut down by the remote starter?

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Shaun, we are the same height, that is neat!

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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 7:40 AM
RAP (Retained accessory power) needs to be shut off when the remote start turns off. Opening a door will shut the radio off, so pulse the door trigger at shutdown and the radio will turn off.




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 8:32 AM
I wouldn't worry about it; it'll time out after a little while.




Posted By: eldon
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 9:37 AM
Chris Luongo wrote:

I wouldn't worry about it; it'll time out after a little while.


actually the radio stayed on all night and drained the battery...





Posted By: green6767
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 10:03 AM
if its the RAP, it shouldn't be staying on all night. They are timed to shut off between like 10 and 15 mintutes or something. I normally dont worry about disabling the RAP, but in your case, you might want to pulse the door pin wire. Again, DOES THE RADIO STAY ON AFTER YOU SHUTDOWNT THE CAR WITH THE RS OR THE KEY???? If its the RS, do the doorpin hookup and program for pulse after shutdown. If its staying on after the car is shut off with the key, you have other issues......

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Shaun, we are the same height, that is neat!

12V Installation Technician for Honda, Dodge, Chrysler, Toyota and Jeep.




Posted By: eldon
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 10:28 AM
I was told that it's staying on after the person gets out of the car.

So they remote start, get in with key and later get out and turn off with key and the radio is staying on.


So to turn off are you saying pulse with remote start? or with factory keyless entry remote?




Posted By: green6767
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 10:34 AM
i've seen this once before also. It didn't have anything to do with the remote starter in my case. For some reason, the radio was not recognizing that the key was been turned to the off position. They key had to be munipulated in the cylinder or jiggled when turned to the off position to get the radio to recogize that the key was off and the door was being opened. I had noticed this before installing the RS, so I brought it to the customers attention before working on it....that payed off as the customer had no idea and I would have likely been pinned with the blame after the install....you know how that goes. Its not an aftermarket radio is it?

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Shaun, we are the same height, that is neat!

12V Installation Technician for Honda, Dodge, Chrysler, Toyota and Jeep.




Posted By: eldon
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 10:38 AM
nope it's a stock radio




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Twelvoltz & green6767 are right..........Pulse the Door Trigger on Shutdown
If it is staying on beyond the 12 Minute Cycle, then the RAPS has a problem, the Vehicle has a problem, or worse case, the Remote Start Install is Powering up a wire

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 10:31 PM
Did you connect anything from the remote starter to the brown, second-accessory wire at the ignition switch?

If you did, test to see that something hasn't been miswired, allowing the brown wire to see power all the time.

If you didn't, test the brown wire anyway and see if it has power all the time.

Possible solutions:

--If remote starter is connected to the brown, disconnect it; it isn't necessary anyway.

--If brown wire still has power all the time, unplug ignition switch from behind. If the problem goes away, you've got a bad ignition switch, as green6767 says.

--If brown wire does not lose power when ignition switch is unplugged, something is wrong somewhere else in the car.

--If brown wire does NOT have power, but the radio still stays on anyway, something is wrong somewhere else in the car.




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 06, 2007 at 2:21 PM

i've seen a few grand am's and alero's with a bum door sense circuit..... opening the door didnt shut off the RAP circuit.....   as mentioned RAP will normally expire after 10 minutes anyway.....  could be class II issue.....

is the domelight staying on all the time?  does it turn on & off when you open & close the door?



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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979





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