alarm and door locks work, no remote start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: alarm and door locks work, no remote start
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Subject: alarm and door locks work, no remote start
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 1:09 PM
For the most part I've successfully installed the Commando rs-combo on my 86 Cherokee. The only thing that is not working is the remote start. When I press the button, the dash lights up, the parking lights blink and the door buzzer buzzes, all of these at the same time briefly (about a half a second), then nothing happens. I have all connections made except for the starter interrupt/anti-grind, could that be the culprit? Or, I've got the brown 12 gauge #2 ignition running parallel on the same ignition wire as yellow primary ignition wire, maybe that's it? I'm stumped. Also, when left armed overnight the alarm has a tendency to just chirp occaionally and sometimes even go off. I know no one was near it because there were no footprints in the snow in my driveway, so it wasn't my crack-addict neighbor trying to steal my stuff again. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank You! Dane ------------- Dane Edmonds
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Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 3:20 PM
Did you install the hood pin? if so is your hood open? If not is the blue wire grounded? Your shock sensor may be set too sensitive. but you might want to keep it set sensitive because it might pick up the shakes that your crack head neighbor probably makes when he is about to try to steal your stuff ------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:14 PM
Ha ha ha, very funny but true about the neighbor. I have the hood pin installed, and I thought that it could possibly be that the hood pin wasn't grounded well enough so I took a length of wire and extended the hood pin connection to a good ground, but that still didn't have any effect. I haven't tried adjusting the shock sensor yet, though, so I'll do that and holla' back atchu. Thanks J. Dane ------------- Dane Edmonds
Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:19 PM
Try holding the hood pin down with your hand. It might not be adjusted properly. Also usually there is a switch to be installed under the dash to disable the remote starter. Check to make sure that is on and hooked up properly.
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:22 PM
Would that be the 'starter interrupt/anti-grind' relay that I didn't connect because I'm an incompetent moron with relays? Because the only "switch" I have is the valet/program. Thanks for the response, brah. Dane
Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:31 PM
Well I am not 100% certain how that remote start is set up but there should be no need to hook up the starter interupt to make that remote starter work. But there should be a wire that goes to the starter wire to supply power to it.
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:35 PM
Yeah, got that wire hooked up to the starter, the only thing I can think of is it's possibly on the wrong post on the starter solenoid. I connected it to the post that does NOT have a constant 12v+ power source, instead to the other post which does not, only when the ignition is turned.  Dane (wow, that smiley confused face makes me feel so, confused). ------------- Dane Edmonds
Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:42 PM
Post?? It is commoin practice to hook it up at the wires coming from the ignition switch under the dash. Check to make sure that post goes +12v when you crank the engine. I highly recommend gettin it at the wire at the location i suggested. The wire should be green I believe.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:43 PM
Quote from above: "I thought that it could possibly be that the hood pin wasn't grounded well enough so I took a length of wire and extended the hood pin connection to a good ground, but that still didn't have any effect" The hood pin cant see ground or the RS will think the hood is open and not start. Try disconnecting and taping the end of the hood pin wire for kicks. ------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 5:50 PM
About the post thing: Oh. I'll make sure and get on that green wire right quick, and to think I dun gone and smudged up my pants underneath my car. If that don't work, then I'm saying to hell with the damn thing because in that case I'll have to get an exorcist to get rid of the demon in my car's electrical system, and priests are creepy . As for the hood pin disconnection, already tried it but thanks anyway. You guys are the greatest. Incompetent, broke fools like me shouldn't be doing this stuff. Dane
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 6:21 PM
This is not a very complex unit: so there are only a few possible causes for this not working. These are the only possiblities if you have everything wired correctly. 1 You are in Valet mode: but the alarm would not work either 2. Hood pin seeing ground: Cut this wire and tape the end until you figure this out! 3. The heavy gauge wires are plugged into the unit in the wrong order: It should go like this if you start plugging them in from the pin closest to the edge of the unit: Red. Red, Brown, Yellow, Orange, Purple. 4. If the first three all check out to be hooked up right, then you likely do not have the right wires tapped in the ignition harness. If the starter is actually acting like you mention that it was, then the only possibilities are that the hoodpin is seeing ground, or the unit is bad. Are any of the dipswitches flipped inside on the circuit board? ARe you using tach. tachless, or vacuum? What I would do is test the unit and make sure that it acts the same way everytime. Let us know in more detail exactly what is happening, like how long the parking lights turn on for, and if the ignition and accessories get powered up at all and if so for how long, or are the parking lights the only thing that turns on. Turn your blowers on high so you know if they are powered up. Get back to us, and dont give up because you are very close. If you cant figure out anything from this, then let me know what ignition wires you grabbed. I assume that you tested them with a DMM or a test light . ------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 6:44 PM
So here's the skinny, or the fat, I don't know: When I press the remote start, the parking lights flash for approximately a second, the siren chirps, and if the doors are unlocked they lock. The blower turns on for that second, I can hear the fuel pump power up, and I hear one "click" in the engine compartment, and the buzzer which goes on briefly when the ignition is turned also buzzes for the duration of that glorious second. After that second:___________, flat line, nothing. No more lights, no chirp, no four flashes ( I think its four) to signify a failed attempt. Yes, I do have dip switch #4 on off for the pulse wire wrapped around the ignition coil and 'secured with electrical tape' like the manual says. Everything else checks out. I think I'll disconnect the purple starter switch from the post on the solenoid and tap into the green wire from the ignition harness which supplies the starter; as it is customarily done. Really appreciate it, brah. Dane
Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 6:52 PM
Yes do that. It sounds like power us not being supplied to the starter solonoid. I am not sure of your mechanical abilities but it is possible that you are hooking the wires up to the starter and not the starter solonoid. Definately hook it up at the wire inside the truck. Check the wire with a digital multi meter first! It should read +12v when you turn the key to the start position and ground or 0volts when in any other position.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 7:01 PM
Yes the starter wire should certainly be connected to the green wire in the ignition harness. You should also have the three red wire hooked up to the Red wire in the Ignition harness, the Yellow to the Yellow on the jeep, the orange to the Brn, and the brown you do not need, I think you said you had it wired with the yellow wire. As far as dipswitch 4 goes, If i remember right that is for the tach signal right? I would not recommend that you hook up the wire that way. I would wait to make sure that you need this wire hooked up at all. I would try flipping that dipswitch back and disconnecting the wire until you know that you need it. Try this and let me know it it works ------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 9:13 PM
I'm gonna get right on that. Thank you all, I'll get back to you as soon as I've got them hooked up correctly. Dane
Posted By: Warren Jeep
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 9:17 PM
I'll make sure to keep you updated on this puzzle as soon as something develops. Again, I really appreciate it. Dane
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 9:20 PM
No problem
------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 10:11 PM
No problem. Let us know how you make out!
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