2007 camry, 2 starter wires?
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 06, 2024 at 2:18 AM
Topic: 2007 camry, 2 starter wires?
Posted By: legenux
Subject: 2007 camry, 2 starter wires?
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 3:55 PM
Hi, I'm trying to do a friend's 2007 camry XLE V4. Base on this wiring, https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=84400, it has 2 starter wires. How should I go about this? I usually only familiar with 1 starter wire. Also, can I use 556U DEi bypass for this camry? Thanks.
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Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 3:59 PM
This diagram only shows 1 starter wire.. From what I rememeber there is only 1 starter wire.
Posted By: master5
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 4:07 PM
You can use the 555u with the valet key. Hooking up the second starter wire is cake..many toyos have this. The RS unit you are installing should have an output for this...but it will be a low current negative. Use a relay...30 and 86 to constant fused...85 to 2nd start - output....87 to the 2nd start wire of vehicle (should be a smaller ga.) If your system has no - 2nd start output (read the manual carefully) then do it this way...30 to constant 12v+ fused, 85 to ground....86 tapped off the main starter wire, 87 to 2nd start wire. 87a is not used in either case. It is funny but on another thread in this forum we have been disccusing for weeks why toyo (and some other vehicles) require a 2nd starter wire. as of yet a solid answer has not been given. Perhaps one day we will find out..for now just hook it up. Some say it is for a cold crank sensor but since this wire sends 12v during crank if either cold OR hot that really doesn't hold water IMO. -------------
Posted By: master5
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 4:08 PM
oops I meant 556u..well you probably knew
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Posted By: legenux
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 4:18 PM
I guess its not listed in the above link, but i have another wiring that list the 2nd starter wire. Is it neccessary to use this wire at all or I can I just ignore it? I am trying to install the hornet 564T on this vehicle. The DEI unit advises me to cut the first starter wire and connect one side o its green and other to purple wire. As for the second starter wire, leave it alone or follow the above method? If I leave it untouch, can the start at all ? Thanks.
Posted By: cableguy13011
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 4:40 PM
hey i suggest you to cut the two wires and put each side together and install starter kill relay like always
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Cableguy!!!
Posted By: legenux
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 9:51 PM
Hey I'm trying to wire the relay but I can't find the wire on the 564T Hornet. Do you know the exact name in the manual for the "2nd start wire of vehicle ." I only see some that are similar, is one of these it : + output to second ignition circuit, -200ma 2nd STATUS, -500 mA armed output.
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: February 20, 2007 at 10:32 PM
just wire like this. 85 to the purple starter wiring that is hooked to the #1 starter wire in the car. 86 to ground. 30 to the 2nd starter wire in the car. 87a to nothing. and 87 to 12v constant. do worry about cutting the 2nd start wire like cableguy suggest this is no need for this. ------------- Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: February 21, 2007 at 6:22 AM
Do it as Redpeppers suggests and it will work fine. Do NOT do it like cableguy says, the car will blow the AM1 fuse a few weeks down the road. You must hook up the second starter wire for the RS to work properly...
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: master5
Date Posted: February 21, 2007 at 10:55 AM
Agreed as well. No need to cut the 2nd starter. If doing a kill cut the main starter wire as normal. Use the relay for the 2nd start as suggested..tap to it. If the RS unit you are using does not have a dedicated 2nd start output for the relay connect 86 to the main start output wire of the RS on the key side.
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Posted By: legenux
Date Posted: February 21, 2007 at 9:04 PM
Thank you. I will follow the guide.
Posted By: legenux
Date Posted: February 21, 2007 at 9:15 PM
Actually, before I leave, I am bit more confused. From the above, thare at least 4 ways to wire this, which is the correct way to do ? ?? 1) Do it this way, 85 to the small purple, 86 and 30 to 12volts, and 87 to your second starter wire.... 2)https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/108.jpg 3)85 to the purple starter ,86 to ground. 30 to the 2nd starter wire in the car. 87a to nothing. and 87 to 12v constant. 4)30 to constant 12v+ fused, 85 to ground....86 tapped off the main starter wire, 87 to 2nd start wire Thanks.
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: February 22, 2007 at 6:55 AM
The way i do them on a DEI product is #1....
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: master5
Date Posted: February 22, 2007 at 9:37 AM
It is not really a matter of which is the correct way....as long as it is done one of those ways......basically...as long as the 2nd starter wire gets 12v+ during crank of the RS...and is relay isolated from the main starter wire, that would be considered "correct". In this case there is more then one way to skin a cat... Simply choose any of the methods suggested that suits you...if the unit does not have a dedicated output wire to drive the 2nd start relay..use the main crank output wire of the RS to drive the relay coil..its simple. All the relay is doing in this case is isolating the 2 start wires..and sending current to the 2nd through the contacts of the relay during remote start crank cycle. Good Luck -------------
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