viper 150 esp/xcrs 500m, 87 bronco

I have a Viper 150 ESP that I would like to install.  I have searched around and found two install manuals for the main module, one for the 150ESP and the other for the 552 Series.  My problem is that the kit came with a XCRS 500M relay satellite and I can not find anything in the manuals that links the two together.  I have also searched for an install guide for the XCRS without any luck.  The XCRS has a 4 pin and a 7 pin hookup that is still a mystery.

Are these compatible items?

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance.

Fudge....  I thought relays were all basically the same.

Where could I obtain a hcrs?  Is there a specific one I need?

I am still confused, because I do not see hcrs listed in the manuals either.  How would those get hooked up?

After a lot more searching and a little more reading I have a couple other questions.  Is the hcrs basically three independent relays, if so, does anyone know what size?  Is the xcrs basically a four in one relay?  If so, couldn't it be wired to act as a hcrs?

An xcrs wiring diagram or directions would really help about now.

I was thinking along those lines.  Thanks.

Another question is that there is a 4 pin output from the xcrs - are those the same as the ones out of the esp150?

What about the larger green wire (key side starter wire)?  What is it?

And while I am at it, I want to also hook up (if possible) a 530T (I think) to my rear window to allow for remote up/down capabilities.  What would be the best way to do that?

There is a switch in the dash that works when the accessories are on or there is a key in the tailgate that works all the time.  I am thinking I could tie it in at the dash with the unit getting power from somewhere else.  How does the 530T operate?  Is it a momentary switch?  Timed? Load sensing?

It just keeps getting better.  I am trying to figure out what type of door locks I have.  I thought I had it, but I guess not.  If I look at the factory schematics it looks like there is a ground loop that goes through the switches and motors while it is inactive.  Then when a switch is activated (unlock), the ground is broken in that spot and a 12+ is introduced going to the motor, back through the other switch (lock) which at rest is still grounded thereby completing the circuit.  I thought originally it was a type a, but it seems that it would just ground out.

I think it is a type c (reversing polarity).  From the ESP150 manual it looks like you loose the use of the factory switch when this is installed. - is that correct?  I'd like to double check before I dive into this side.  Here is a Ford factory diagram.

Hmmm.  I think I got it.  So I need to pick up two relays to wire this in, I assume they should be rated for at least 30 amps each?

I have not picked up a 530T yet, it'll probably be a few months down the road.

Well, this is where I started.

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=91560&KW=esp150

Now I am finally diving into the install tomorrow (Monday) and am hoping that a couple knowledgeable people will be around to help.  Any install suggestions would be helpful.  Drop the dash, don't drop the dash, etc.  Mostly I think I will need wiring advice or clarification. 

Thanks in advance.

So here begins the questions...

Ignition.  I am looking to see what ignition circuits need to be hooked up on the truck to make this work.  So far I am pretty sure I need to run:

xcrs Pink to vehicle RED / LT Grn - This should power up the charging circuits.

? xcrs Pink / White to vehicle WHITE/ lt blue - power to coil

?  I have no idea but I want the A/C/Heater circuit on truck - that is a must. Should I use the xcrs for that?  Does hooking up ESP150 H1/1 orange to xcrs orange work this relay?

? Cut the truck RED / lt blue starter circuit and the starter side goes to xcrs purple and the key side to xcrs green.

Thanks

Anyone?

So far so good.  The unit is fired up and the door locks, flashing lights, and horn works.  I think I want a soft chirp siren though.  Next comes the remote start....

Anyone?

Lets get a little more specific...

There is a BROWN / pink wire coming from the ignition switch that I guess is for the run output for the engine.  Does anyone know what this feeds?  Is it kooked up into the RED / lt green ignition wire somewhere down the road.  Do I need to hook this to Ing2 output of the xcrs?

slawson2000 wrote:

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So here begins the questions...

Ignition.  I am looking to see what ignition circuits need to be hooked up on the truck to make this work.  So far I am pretty sure I need to run:

xcrs Pink to vehicle RED / LT Grn - This should power up the charging circuits.

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slawson2000 wrote:

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? xcrs Pink / White to vehicle WHITE/ lt blue - power to coil

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slawson2000 wrote:

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?  I have no idea but I want the A/C/Heater circuit on truck - that is a must. Should I use the xcrs for that?  Does hooking up ESP150 H1/1 orange to xcrs orange work this relay?

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slawson2000 wrote:

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? Cut the truck RED / lt blue starter circuit and the starter side goes to xcrs purple and the key side to xcrs green.

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Sorry for the confusion...  just trying to get it done before I bake - it is supposed to be 108*+ today.

BROWN / pink is hot in the ignition/start position.  I figure it may be for the ignition accessories like the a/c.  I hooked it up to the XCRS pink/wht (ignition 2).  BROWN / pink is not in anything I have either, but is does come off the Ignition 2 spot on the ignition switch.  There are a couple Accessory spots on the ignition switch as well, but I am not doing those as I do not care if the radio and wipers work when no one is in it.

xcrs Pink to vehicle RED / LT Grn - got it thanks

xcrs Pink / White to vehicle WHITE/ lt blue - power to coil -  Never mind, it connects to the RED / lt grn down the harness.

I have the 5 wire harness and the 7 wire harness.  Currently i am wiring as you  indicated previously

5 pin harness       ----       7 pin harness
purple   ----       purple
orange ----       orange
pink      ----       pink AND pink/white
yellow   ----       yellow
red       ----        probably not needed...but may need to be hooked up to +12v - I a not hooking up at all.

Not needed        ----        blue
H1/1 orange       ----        ORANGE / black

Oh, and got the starter circuit together.

I have everything else in and am getting ready to try it out.  Am i ready?  Did I screw up or forget something?

Thanks for the help and patience.

Nothing is hooked to the thick grey/yel wire.  The Grey / YELLOW drives the wiper motor mostly.

I got it fired up.  Still need to learn the tach, not sure how to do it, but then again do I because it already runs?  Still need to go though the programming.  I perfer everything to be active.  I do not want it to do anything unless I tell it to.

The BROWN / pink must run the a/c, because it is working on the remote start. 

The BLACK/ white safety hooked to the switch and then to the ground.  The tap for the start wire is directly off the ignition switch and the neutral safety is down current, so I should be in good shape correct?

Still testing.  The anti-theft is working, locks, lights, horn as well, brake shuts it off.

Still need to do hood pin, redo one set of wires.  I think I have the xcrs purple and green backwards.  If I connect them the starter works, apart it does not.  I'd like to have the anti-grind.  Mount the shutoff switch and tuck up the wires securely.

Had the start wires backwards - now it works.  Anti grind works.  Hood pin works. Dome light works.  I think I have it down.  Still have to teach the tach and tuck up wires.

All I am not sure of is the safety switch (BLACK/ white wire and switch), but I think it is right.

Thanks for the BLACK/ white wire info.

Got it, I'll set the idle today.  What does it control or monitor?  How?  Should this be done with the engine hot or cold? 

BTW, thanks for all the help.