2005 toyota rav4, remote start, keyless

Hi ! I am getting ready to install a R/S in the wifes Toyota Rav4. It has factory keyless entry. Since it has factory keyless does this mean immobilizer and I need to get a bypass module. Will there be a "security of theft"  light in the dash ?   Are the 04 wire colors good for the 05 as well?   Thanks for your time  !!!!

12 VOLT CONSTANT	WHITE (+) and BLACK/ RED (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER	RED (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER 2	N/A
IGNITION 1	BLACK (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 2	BLACK / YELLOW (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 3	N/A
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1	BLUE/RED (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2	N/A
KEYSENSE	BLUE/RED (-)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
PARKING LIGHTS ( - )	N/A
PARKING LIGHTS ( + )	GREEN (+) or GREEN/ RED (+)	@ HEADLIGHT SWITCH
POWER LOCK	BLUE/ORANGE (TYPE B)	IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, 14-PIN Plug, Pin 6
POWER UNLOCK	BLUE / YELLOW to BLUE/ORANGE (TYPE B) (Requires Double Pulse)	IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, 14-PIN Plug, Pin 13
LOCK MOTOR WIRE	BLUE/ORANGE (+)	IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, 13-PIN Plug, Pin 2
DOOR TRIGGER	RED (-)	@ HARNESS, HEADING UNDER DRIVERS SEAT
DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION	RED / WHITE (-), Requires Part #775 Relay	@ IGNITION KEY CYLINDER LIGHT
TRUNK RELEASE	N/A
SLIDING POWER DOOR	N/A
HORN	GREEN/ RED (-)	@ STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
TACH	BLACK	@ DATA LINK CONNECTOR, See NOTE *1
WAIT TO START LIGHT	N/A
BRAKE	GREEN / WHITE (+)	@ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
FACTORY ALARM DISARM	DISARMS with KEYSENSE wire, See NOTE *2	@ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
ANTI-THEFT	TRANSPONDER ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM, REQUIRES 791 BYPASS MODULE AND EXTRA IGNITION KEY	TRANSPONDER @ IGNITION SWITCH TUMBLER

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05 Rav4

You will need a bypass.
You can either give up a key and use a universal bypass, or highly recommended, using a keyless type- bypasskit has XKO5 that needs to be flashed to PKT2.


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Who makes the XK05? Thanks in advance . I'm wized off with the retail shops I contract to forgetting to tell customers to bring 2 keys.

If im not mistaken howie the XK05 are made by https://www.xpressdownload.com/  Basically these kits are interchangeble as in you have to upload software to the appropriate vehicle platform to make them work.  I would assume that the Eurpoean versions are the same as american and therefore two keys are needed sometimes to program only.  Several companies make them like DATALINK, DEI now with the 1100x and F, Fortin(no software change, just a lot of vehicle applications with their bypasses), Trilogix which is now owned by DEI as of last week I think.  Personally I love the Fortin bypasses which to me are super reliable and affordable,  Great thing about bypasses like XK05 are that you can change the software of the bypass to whichever vehicle your workin on but they are more expense.  Try Fortin like I mentioned earlier, they are coming out with the KEY-OVERRIDE-ALL which works almost on any car and also their "INT-BMW1" which work on BMW;s from 2004-2007 and push start compatible!!!! See if this is helpfull buddy

It is extremely rare for a RAV4 to have an immobilizer key. Any way you could post a picture of your key? Do you have a key that is all metal?

  
The key is all meta,.l no transponder in the key. The black plastice just covers the key

Unlikely that it has an immobilizer .. but if you're unsure, run to a hardware store and make a duplicate of your RAV4 key and try the duplicate in the ignition -- if it starts up, no immobilizer.

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And if no immobilizer,no module needed ?    Thanks!

I am gonna install a RS/KE in the wifes RAV. It has factory keyless. I know its a negative trigger system,but requires a double pulse. Does the rs unit I am putting in have to be able to be programmed for double pulse locks ? Thanks!        The unit I am putting in is for positive,negative or reversing polarity locks.

yes, double pulse (neg) locking is programmable in most newer r/s units.

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no module needed, then, correct.

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Thanks Enice, will follow up on Fortin, let' s hope I get there before DEI swallow them up as well! N.B. '04 Rav must have a transponder immob. UK models had them since Jan 97 when it became an EU requirement. 

USMC Vet,

1. As the others have said, that's a non-transponder key you have.

I think the RAV4 with transponder key is either a myth, or maybe only available in other countries.

So, no, you don't need a bypass module.

2. The SECURITY light you mentioned in the dash indicates you have a Toyota alarm, which could be dealer-installed, or factory-installed.

-Open the driver's window.

-Close all doors, lock with the transmitter, and leave the car alone for at least 30 seconds.

-Reach in through the open window, unlock and open the door; the alarm should sound.

-Insert and turn the key in the exterior driver door (don't use the remote), and see if you can stop the alarm from sounding. You should be able to.

Provided that the key really does disarm the alarm from the outside, you'll be all set.

Connect a ground-when-running output from your remote starter to the car's keysense wire.

Use the blue / YELLOW and blue/orange wires for the doorlocks......these will arm and disarm the factory alarm, from the aftermarket remote.

Keysense wire,it does need to be hooked up ? Connect it to ground ? I went and had a key made,not a transponder key,and it started right up.

I did what you said about locking the doors with the remote and reaching in window, No alarm sounded. So does this mean just a straight hookup ?

YES

I am trying to hook up the ke on the rs unit. When I hooked up the test light to the blue/orange(power lock) it was negative at rest and when i hit the lock switch it went positive for a second. Does this mean I have reversing polarity locks ? Thanks! Please tell me how I hook this up, my unit has a negaive output for the locks.

USMC Vet wrote:

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I am trying to hook up the ke on the rs unit. When I hooked up the test light to the blue/orange(power lock) it was negative at rest and when i hit the lock switch it went positive for a second. Does this mean I have reversing polarity locks ? Thanks! Please tell me how I hook this up, my unit has a negaive output for the locks.

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You have the wrong wire. You are on a motor wire. You need to find the wires that go to the lock cylinder. After connecting your test light to the suspected wire, turn the key in the drivers door. The test light should go to ground.

POWER LOCK      BLUE/ORANGE (TYPE B)      IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, 14-PIN Plug, Pin 6
POWER UNLOCK      BLUE / YELLOW to BLUE/ORANGE (TYPE B) (Requires Double Pulse)      IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, 14-PIN Plug, Pin 13

Just did an alarm/keyless on an '05 RAV yesterday afternoon, so hopefully this description will be accurate:

--Remove driver's kick panel. (You must remove the doorsill plate first.)

--In the kick panel, you can pretty easily see the bundle of wires that comes into the body, coming from the driver's door. (If you're not sure, grab the rubber boot in the door-hinge area and wiggle it, then you'll see for sure.)

--That bundle coming from the door goes downwards, and separates into two separate bundles, each going to a plug down low in the kick panel.

--In the LOWER of those two plugs, it's all thin wires there......are the blue/orange and blue / YELLOW.

--If you are using a regular (bulb-type) test light, here's how you do it.

*The "clamp" part of the test light should be connected to a source of constant, positive power.
*Touch the tip of the test light to a piece of body metal on the car. If it lights up, you're good.
*Put the test light tip to the desired wire on the car, reach outside, and turn the key in the door.
*If the light comes on while you turn the key, it's the right wire.

Thanks Chris and JWORM. I just got it hooked up and it works like a champ. I was in the wrong bundle of wires,the upper ones. Glad it works !!!!!    Thanks again !!!!!

Just one more question. Since the rav has no immobilizer or alarm can I set the unit to single pulse on the locks?

Try this...

Turn the key to unlock in the drivers door one time. Does it unlock ONLY the drivers door, or all the doors? If it only does the drivers door, you will need to set it to double pulse. On Toyotas and Nissans I usually set the system up for double pulse with the shortest pulse possible (usually 150ms). That way all 4 doors open quickly after hitting unlock.

There are wires coming from the passenger door lock cylinder that will unlock all 4 doors with a single pulse. Unfortunately, I don't know the color/location of those wires. I think you have to get them in the passenger kick panel.

Not sure if this helps because most of the UK spec cars came with (dealer installed) alarms. Behind the glove box (LEFT hand side is a seies of white connector blocks. These will give you door contacts, trunk contacts lock and unlock neg pulse, this locks and unlocks all doors, no need for seconf pulse, sorry if I've confused you.

The single/double pulse isn't related to whether or not you have an alarm, but rather, what your preferences are.

--On the blue / YELLOW unlock wire, you may have already discovered this, but:
1 pulse unlocks only the driver's door.
A second pulse, within a brief period of time, unlocks the other four doors (including the tailgate).

--If you prefer all of the doors to be open every time you disarm the alarm, program your unit for double pulse.

--If you prefer to have ONLY the driver's door unlock on the first press (as many late-model cars do), leave the unit programmed for single-pulse.

Most modern car alarms allow you to press the "unlock/disarm" button on the remote as many times as you wish, regardless of whether the alarm is armed or not.

If that's the case, just press the button a second time, and the other doors will unlock.