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need a wiring diagram for 07 ion

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: need a wiring diagram for 07 ion

Posted By: Fosgate3
Subject: need a wiring diagram for 07 ion
Date Posted: June 04, 2007 at 10:26 PM

It's not in the12volt database. I'm trying to put in a remote start alarm (Code Alarm CA670). The car has power locks/windows, auto trans. 2007 Saturn Ion3 Sedan.

thanks ahead of time.




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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: June 05, 2007 at 6:50 AM
Here is what Audiovox lists:

     WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION     
     Battery          RED          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
               THIS WIRE IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR USE - EITHER RUN A CONSTANT POWER WIRE TO THE BATTERY OR FIND ANOTHER SOURCE.     
     Ignition 1          BLUE          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
     All Door Trigger          BROWN / WHITE          (-)          AT SWITCH AT EITHER FRONT DOOR     
     Domelight Super          BROWN / WHITE          (-)          AT SWITCH AT EITHER FRONT DOOR     
     LF Latch          LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK          (-)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #45     
     RF Latch          LIGHT BLUE          (-)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #44     
     LR Latch          LIGHT BLUE          (-)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #44     
     RR Latch          LIGHT BLUE          (-)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #44     
     Trunk Trigger          DARK GREEN          (-)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #35     
     Parking Lights          BROWN          (+)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #5     
     Convenience                                        
     WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION     
     Headlights-Lo          PINK/WHITE          (+)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #23     
     Headlights-Hi          PINK          (+)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #7     
     LF Pk Lt Bulb          BROWN          (+)          AT FRONT LEFT PARKING LIGHT     
     RF Pk Lt Bulb          BROWN          (+)          AT FRONT RIGHT PARKING LIGHT     
     LR Pk Lt Bulb          BROWN          (+)          AT REAR LEFT PARKING LIGHT     
     RR Pk Lt Bulb          BROWN          (+)          AT REAR RIGHT PARKING LIGHT     
     Remote Start                                        
     WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION     
     Battery          RED          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
               THIS WIRE IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR USE - EITHER RUN A CONSTANT POWER WIRE TO THE BATTERY OR FIND ANOTHER SOURCE.     
     Ignition 1          BLUE          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
     Accessory 1          BROWN          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
     Anti-Theft Type          GM PASSLOCK II® ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM     
     Anti-Theft Descript          THE BCM MODULE MUST SEE A SPECIFIC RESISTANCE VALUE BEFORE THE VEHICLE WILL START PROPERLY     
     Speed Sense          VIOLET          (AC)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #50     
     Parking Lights          BROWN          (+)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER CONSOLE NEAR CENTER OF DASH     
               PIN #5     
     Horn          BLACK          (-)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
     Modules                                        
     WIRE          LOCATION                         
     Please select another category
     Doorlocks/Windows                                        
     WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION     
     Power Unlock          WHITE          (-)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER OF DASH AT FRONT OF CONSOLE     
               PIN #33      
     PowerLock          WHITE          (-)          AT BCM MODULE UNDER CENTER OF DASH AT FRONT OF CONSOLE     
               PIN #33     
     Driver Mtr Unlock          TAN          (REV)          AT MOTOR IN DOOR     
     Driver Mtr Lock          GRAY          (REV)          AT MOTOR IN DOOR     
     Pas Mtr Unlock          TAN          (REV)          AT MOTOR IN DOOR     
     Pas Mtr Lock          GRAY          (REV)          AT MOTOR IN DOOR     


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Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 05, 2007 at 9:23 AM

Thanks. I read in other places on other sites that a 456LW is needed for the locks to work right with the keyless. I've seen this module be called a 456L and 456LW and I dont know if there's a difference... regardless though, is a module needed for the locks? It looks like a negative trigger system.

I'm using a 555L module for the passlock bypass.





Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 05, 2007 at 9:41 AM
NO difference between the 456L and LW, only referrs to the packaging. Lock is a neg trigger, unlock is a neg trigger through 1.5k ohm resistor.





Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 05, 2007 at 10:30 AM
use 1.5k res on just the unlock or both lock and  unlock?




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 05, 2007 at 10:32 AM
also, what tolerance on the resistor?




Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 05, 2007 at 10:57 AM
no, lock is a neg trigger./      unlock is a neg trigger through a 1.5k resistor. probably within 50 either way. can snag some at radioshack too




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 06, 2007 at 8:15 PM

Thanks for the help on the locks. I got them done.

The last thing I'm working on is the remote start. I'm using a DEI 555L bypass. It's pretty self explanatory but yet, the car is being troublesome. I found the resistance wire and the ground reference wire under the steering column. The resistence wire is white and the ground reference is white with black. When I connected the 555L to the wires (solid black going to the ground-ref; BLACK/ yel going to the res.wire away from the ignition switch; yel going to the res.wire going to the ignition switch) and tried to let the module "learn" the resistence, the car wouldnt start. I disconnected what I had and reconnected it back to factory and the car started fine. Since I used info from DEI regarding which whire was which, I used a DMM to see for myself at this point. The resistance wire was reading ground instead of what was supposed to be the ground reference wire. So, I swapped the things around, using the WHITE/ black as the resistance (instead of the white) and the white as the ground reference (instead of the WHITE/ black). When I did that, the chime started going off as soon as the first connection to what was being considered the ground reference wire (the white wire) was made.

So, what am I doing wrong?

On this 555L btw, there is a blue wire called the "negative status" wire that was supposed to connect to the negative status output of the alarm. My alarm is a Code Alarm CA670... I was thinking that was the negative armed output (the orange wire)?





Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 06, 2007 at 8:31 PM
on the 2003 up saturn, you need to do an extra step. and you use the blue/black on the 670. see info https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=643




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 06, 2007 at 8:40 PM

When I mentioned the blue wire at the end of my post, I meant the blue/black. What does it connect to?

Thanks for pointing me in that direction. Do you think that having the pink wire of the 555L connected to the ignition1 all the time is causing it not to start though? What I mean is that the car is not starting with the 555L installed--that is, with the exception of the blue/black connected to some other wire other than the orange wire of the 670. With it connected to the armed neg output (the orange wire) and all the wires connected as directed (except for that pink wire which I had connected to the ignition 1 with the main ignition1 wire of the 670), the car will not turn over.





Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 06, 2007 at 8:53 PM
the status wire from 555l goes to the blue/black on the 670. yes, hook the pink from 555l to the pink from the pink/white ignition 2 on the 670.




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 06, 2007 at 9:05 PM
Cool. I'll do that and hopefully it will start this time! I'll post more tomorrow. thanks Rudy. I'd




Posted By: dea,can
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 2:02 AM
FUNCTIONDATACOLORLOCATIONPOLARITYPICTURE
+12 VOLTSREDBELOW STEERING COLUMN+posted_image
Comments: Do not use 12-volt coming from ignition harness. Use 12-volt from power steering module.
IGNITIONBLUEIGNITION HARNESS+posted_image
ACCESSORYBROWNIGNITION HARNESS+posted_image
STARTERN/ASEE NOTESSEE NOTES 
Comments: No connection, when accessory shuts down, vehicle cranks by itself. PASSLOCK II new generation.
TACHOMETERWHITECOILACposted_image
PARKING LIGHTSBROWNHEADLIGHT SWITCH+posted_image
BRAKESWITCHLIGHT BLUEDRIVER'S KICK PANEL+posted_image
CLUTCH BYPASSYELLOWCLUTCH SWITCH+ 
Comments: Direct feed system.
PARKING BRAKELIGHT BLUEPARKING BRAKE SWITCH- 
LOCKWHITEHARNESS COMING FROM DRIVER'S DOOR-posted_image
UNLOCKSEE NOTESHARNESS COMING FROM DRIVER'S DOORMULTIPLEXposted_image
Comments: Same wire as lock. To unlock, ground through 1000 ohms resistor.
TRUNK RELEASEBLACK/ WHITEAT SWITCH+posted_image
ARMARMS WITH OEM REMOTE ONLYNOT AVAILABLEN/A 
DISARMDISARM WITH IGNITIONNOT AVAILABLEN/A 
Comments: No external disarm capability but will disarm on his own upon remote start.
HORNBLACKSTEERING COLUMN HARNESS- 
DOORPINSEPARATE DOORPINDRIVER'S KICK PANEL- 
LEFT FRONT DOORPINLIGHT GREEN/ BLACKDRIVER'S KICK PANEL- 
PASSENGER'S DOORPINSLIGHT BLUEDRIVER'S KICK PANEL- 
TRUNK PINORANGE / BLACKTRUNK LIGHT- 
PASSLOCK DATAWHITEIGNITION HARNESSMULTIPLEXposted_image
PASSLOCK GROUNDWHITE/ BLACKIGNITION HARNESSSEE NOTESposted_image
Comments: This wire is not a ground but a 5-volt reference.
WIPER INTERRUPTIONYELLOWWIPER SWITCH+ WITH IGNITION ON 
REAR DEFROSTLIGHT BLUEAT SWITCH- 


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dragon




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 2:17 PM

Okay: everything is connected as it should be:

  • the red wire of the 555L is going to 12v constant
  • the status wire from the 555L is going to the blue/black on the 670
  • the pink wire from the 555L is going to the pink/white (ignition2 output) on the 670
  • the yellow wire on from the 555L is going to the key side of the white resistance wire
  • the BLACK/ yel wire from the 555L is going to the BCM side of the white resistence wire 
  • the black wire from the 555L is going to the WHITE/ bl ground reference wire

The car will not start with the 555L connected. If the yel and blk/yel wires of the 555L are removed and the car's wires are returned to factory, the car will start w/o any problems. 

What now? Think the 555L is faulty?





Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 2:39 PM
did you go through all of the steps to learn the resistance?? here, put the key into the ignition, unplug the 555L connector. try to remote start the car. what happens???




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 2:46 PM
I tried to go through the steps: the 555L's manual states that to learn the resistance, you have to start the car and let it run for at least 5 secs... but I cant start it at all with the 555L in place.




Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 2:52 PM
thats odd, never seen that before. gotta have something messed up in wiring.


Did you unhook the 555 and try to remote start the car with key in ignition??




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 3:12 PM

It gets odder:

I just went out to see if the remote start will function with the key in the ignition, w/o the 555L connected. I disconnected the 555L's yel and blk/yel wires from the white resistence wire and just left the white wire disconnected (so the plock resistence wire is not connected). I tried to start the car with the key and surprisingly, it started up! I wasn't expecting that. I completely disconnected the 555L (unplugged it's harness) and the car still started with the key, w/o the resistence wire connected. I tried the remote start w/ and w/o the key and it did not work.

I'm not familiar with the new way GM does the starting--the "watching for a drop in the accessory power" thing. Because there arent any starter wires, the 670's starter wires arent being used. Of course, neither are the Acc2 and Ignition2 (except with the 555L as instructed).





Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 5:06 PM
zre you sure that you have the correct passlock wires???




Posted By: dea,can
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 5:20 PM
posted_image

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dragon




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 5:34 PM

Pretty sure of it... under the steering column, about 2 inches from the cylinder: there is a green plug with five 18gauge wires in it: orange, blue, brown, white, and WHITE/ black. The orange is 12v, the blue is ignition, the brown is accessory, the white and WHITE/ black are the passlock wires.

I did notice that with the main resistence wire cut (that would be the solid white one), the security light came on and stayed on in the instrument cluster. When I attached the wires back together and restarted the vehicle, the light went off.

I thought about doing it the "old fashion way" by calculating the resistence. With the red probe of the DMM on the key side of the resistence wire and the black probe on the ground reference wire, the resistence was 1.24kOhm. When the probes were swapped, the resistence was 1.214kOhm. I supposed I could do it that way but I still have to find out why/how to get the remote start to actually start the vehicle. I suppose to make sure the alarm is doing what it's supposed to do is to test for 12v on the pink ignition wire when the remote start is activated, right?





Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 07, 2007 at 5:38 PM
Btw, I saw your post dea,can after I replied. Thanks for the image. Those are the wires I am using. I have ignition1 of the code alarm ca670 going to the blue wire of that harness, the Accessory1 wire going to the brown wire and I'm using the white and wht/black wires for the 555L.




Posted By: dea,can
Date Posted: June 08, 2007 at 2:56 AM
i grab my ign wires from dkp pink ign,brown for acc

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dragon




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 08, 2007 at 5:16 AM
what does dkp stand for? so you aren't using the blue wire in that harness (the one in the picture)?




Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 08, 2007 at 8:01 AM
drivers kick panel = dkp




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 08, 2007 at 8:22 AM

Okay. I can go look for that now and see if it works better for the remote start than the blue.

Given the mess that I am going through with the 555L, do you think I should start soldering resistors together to get 1.24kOhms? Radio Shack opens in 45mins and I can run up there and start picking out some stuff. If I did this, would I shoot for the 1.24 reading or the 1.214 reading (as I posted above)?





Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 08, 2007 at 7:14 PM

I looked for a pink wire in the dkp and found only one there. However, it does not measure 12volts with the key on, only 6 to 7 volts. It will keep this voltage while starting but still, its not anything close to 12. Since there wasnt any replies stating otherwise and since I cant get anywhere with the 555L module, I made a relay pack out of two relays using the resistence value 1.24kOhms. I found the diagram while research in this website, under a post regarding the same type of setup in a 2005 Canyon. When installed, the car will start with the key. However, i am having a lot of trouble trying to get the remote start part of the alarm to work. I dont know if I have something connected incorrectly or if the alarm is at fault.

Right now, I am not using the ignition2, acc2, or either of the starter wires (keyside and motor side) of the alarm. Should I be?





Posted By: dea,can
Date Posted: June 09, 2007 at 2:31 AM
posted_image

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dragon




Posted By: dea,can
Date Posted: June 09, 2007 at 2:40 AM
never had trouble with the ions i use kits from bypasskits.com. i dont deal with DEI 556L is what u should be using The 556LW covers all 555LW vehicle applications and includes a built-in relay for compatibility with Colorado, Cobalt, Canyon, and Ion.

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dragon




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 09, 2007 at 6:57 AM
thanks for the diagram. that's pretty much what i found before. Where do you get your starter wire from?




Posted By: rudydapimp
Date Posted: June 09, 2007 at 10:25 AM
purple from the CA670




Posted By: dea,can
Date Posted: June 09, 2007 at 4:35 PM

its has no starter wire the vehicle will start when the remote starters accessory  wire shut down for crank (do not connect  your remote starters wire output to anything.



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dragon




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 15, 2007 at 3:02 PM

In an 07 Saturn Ion3, I'm installing a Code Alarm CA670. I have everything working on it so far, just finishing with the remote start. Now, the concern I face is the factory alarm system unlocks the doors when the Code remote start feature is turned off via the remote.

I've read through the entries that come up when searching but I havent found one that deals with connecting the alarm's negative pulse wire to the locking system. The Code has a blk/red wire on a small 4pin harness, that is supposed to provide a negative pulse after the remote start shutdown. The thing of it is, is that the installation manual doesnt indicate where to connect this wire to (or least I havent found it yet). Additionally, the manual suggests this wire can also be used to send a pulse to the door trigger so to turn off the accessories after the RS is deactivated.

So, how do go about wiring this and is this the best method for accomplishing these tasks? I initially thought that all I would need to do would be to connect the blk/red wire to the green negative lock wire on the alarm but that didnt do anything.

thanks ahead of time!





Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: June 15, 2007 at 3:04 PM

Just wanted everyone to know that I got this going with a PLJX module from bypasskits. I didnt program it right the first go around but I did it over today and it works well. I have an issue with controlling the locks after I disable the RS remotely but I put that in a new post.

Thanks to everyone who helped me on this.






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