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remote start issue in 2003 honda s2000

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: remote start issue in 2003 honda s2000

Posted By: s2ksc03
Subject: remote start issue in 2003 honda s2000
Date Posted: July 04, 2007 at 9:51 PM

I purchased an 2003 Honda S2000 with an Aladdin A-2000 Alarm System. Everything works great with exception of the remote start. The gentleman that had it previously said the remote start work up until he took it in for a new battery. Now, all it does when I press the remote start button is: your hear the fuel pump come on and the lights from the gauge cluster come on, but it never starts.

I have read the owners manuel and follow all steps to insure that it is "remote start" set, when i exit the car and even then I still am unsuccessful.




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Posted By: peterubers
Date Posted: July 04, 2007 at 10:01 PM

You may have to re-learn the tach setting on the alarm brain -- this will require you back to the manual and determine how to do this.  How many times does it "attempt" to remote start? one, two, three?

He probably lost the tach programming when they replaced the battery OR the immobilizer bypass module lost ITS programming and the car won't crank without a key signal being programmed.

You can try this to rule out the immobilizer bypass --> put a key in the ignition cylinder, but do not turn it on (i realize that the s2k is push button start, but you have to turn the key to ignition on before you can do so, correct?) Now, remote start the car and see if it starts up.

Also, since your aladdin is set to Manual transmission mode (hopefully), make sure the E-brake is up, and the shifter is in neutral before you remote start.



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Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 04, 2007 at 10:43 PM

Tired it and no luck.

i tried it with the key in both the "1" and "2" position unsuccesful.

I sounds like it tries a total of 3 times...the one i press and twice on its own.

Owners manual doesnt show how to reprogram





Posted By: captainzab
Date Posted: July 04, 2007 at 11:13 PM
Install manual for Aladdin A-2000

Programming the Tach Signal
Notes:
- This procedure is not necessary if the remote start is set to
sense the alternator.
- If the system is set to sense the tach, verify that DIP switch
#1 on the main module is set to the OFF position before
continuing.

1. In Valet mode, start the vehicle.
2. Press and release the ‘E’ button on the remote control
slowly three times. With each press, the siren or horn
should beep once.
After the third press, the siren or horn should emit a long
beep followed by a short beep. This indicates that the system
is in the tach learning mode.
After five seconds, the siren or horn should beep once,
indicating that the system has learned the tach setting.
Note: If the siren or horn beeps twice, this indicates that the
system did not learn the tach setting. Exit programming, verify
the proper wire and connection, and repeat the tach learning procedure.
3. Turn the ignition off to exit programming.
Press to learn
remote control

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: July 04, 2007 at 11:16 PM
Are youy going thru the proper sequence for starting the manual transmission car.?

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Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 05, 2007 at 2:06 AM

Yep,

"While in the car, set the E break, shift to neutral. remove foot from break and clutch, remove key. Exit vehicle and arm within 1 min.





Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 05, 2007 at 2:31 AM

Hey Captainzab,

thanks for all the info and the link to that manual...I believe thats what I really need! I'll give it a shot and let everyone know what happened.

Thanks everyone.





Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 06, 2007 at 1:06 AM

Alright people,

I reprogrammed the remote start and had it relearn the tach signal, went through all the steps and based on all the beeps, I can say that I did it right.

The new issue now is, my car wont stay ON after I turn off the IGN. I followed the steps in the manual and reprogrammed the setting that allows the car to stay on and it still doesnt work. Keeping the car on, after exiting the car is a crucial step to setting the car for Remote Start.





Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 06, 2007 at 11:56 AM
I got up this morning and attempted to get this issue fixed. I reprogrammed the tach signal...IT SAYS IT LEARNED IT based on the number of beeps and what not! I also got the car to stay on after exiting, follow all the steps to "remote start set" and still nothing...? I wonder if its a wiring problam, although I doubt it since the previous owner told me it stopped working after the battery change?




Posted By: peterubers
Date Posted: July 06, 2007 at 8:28 PM
what does it do now when you attempt to remote start it?  Still three times with the ignition dash lights coming on and then going off?

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Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 07, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Exactly same thing. I exit the car, close the door, car stays on. I arm it and the car shut off, then I leave it maybe 15-20 sec and attempt to Remote start it and samthing you described above...it makes the attempts and then after failing to start it shuts off.




Posted By: peterubers
Date Posted: July 08, 2007 at 12:18 PM

The other thing that comes to mind is re-program your immobilizer bypass module -- perhaps this is somehow interfering in the remote starting process.  The brain is working to SOME extent, in that it'll arm/disarm, lock/unlock, and allow you to remove your key and keep the car running -- so the relays internally (brain) are working to maintain ignition and accessory power. 

The brain is getting caught up in the starting process -- just double check to make sure your sequence of getting out of your car is correct (with the E-brake, clutch, etc) and if this problem persists despite that, I would go under the dash and re-program the bypass unit (IF it is one of the ones that can be re-programmed) 

Also, nothing beats just double-checking all the wiring from the brain to all the pertinent wiring locations to make sure all things are connected.  The whole issue of the remote starter ceasing to function AFTER he changed to the new, smaller battery may be simply coincidental,and have NOTHING to do with loss of programming or anything like that.  There very well could be an issue with the wiring of the brain -- certain types of inferior quick wire connectors have a bad history of failing over time.  Soldering wire joints are the best (if done right, that is).



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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: July 08, 2007 at 12:39 PM
I believe all Honda's will crank, but never start if the bypass module is not programmed properly. If the car doesn't crank, the problem is something else.

Try this...
Start car with key.
Engage parking brake
Turn key off....open door....close door (while still sitting inside).
Arm car (which shuts it off)
Wait a minute.
Push in clutch...Try to remote start the car.

What happens?
Ignition turn on? Does the starter crank?




Posted By: peterubers
Date Posted: July 08, 2007 at 2:30 PM
Jworn -- i was thinking the same thing -- perhaps the clutch output wire is loose/got disconnected.

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Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 08, 2007 at 11:21 PM

Yep it works with the clutch in...I  basically followed what you said

started the car, followed the "remote start process"

while in the car, turned the ignition off, open close door,

arm,

press clutch, press remote start button,....3 seconds, engine comes ON! What do I do next?





Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: July 09, 2007 at 8:30 AM
Take a look at the clutch. There will be two plugs with 2 wires in each going to it. One of those wires should have a wire coming from the remote start connected to it.

From reading the manual that was posted, I would say the original installer would have connected the grey wire in the P9 harness to it. He may have also connected the white wire in the P9 harness. If so, that wire would need to be programmed as "Start Assist" in the programming. It looks like that is not the default setting. I am going to guess it looses that setting when you disconnect the battery.




Posted By: peterubers
Date Posted: July 09, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Jworm -- good call, I think this guy has a working remote starter now!

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Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 11, 2007 at 12:44 AM

I looked at the clutch and honestly saw one plug. Regardless, there is a wire connected to it and its a white one.

In addition, there is a Diode wired into that wire.

I thought for a second, as well that it might be a loose wire like someone mentioned before, because I stayed in the car and pressed the remote starte button. As the car is trying to start, I stuck my foot under the dash in the direction of the wire of the clutch and it started on its own. I went back under the dash and checked all the wires and still no luck. any guesses?





Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: July 11, 2007 at 12:50 AM
Re-read my last reply. It needs to be programmed.




Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 11, 2007 at 10:35 PM

Sounds good, but how do I do that? Ive read the manual and no where does it say how to remprogram that feature?

Do I  just follow the steps to the "tach signal learn" or...





Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: July 12, 2007 at 12:09 AM
Tach programming???

Let me quote myself....

JWorm] wrote:

He may have also connected the white wire in the P9 harness. If so, that wire would need to be programmed as "Start Assist" in the programming. It looks like that is not the default setting. I am going to guess it looses that setting when you disconnect the battery.


Still don't see it?

[Holds Hand]
Page 17 in the manual.
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Sorry for the sarcasm. Its been a long day.....




Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: July 12, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Is there a line for this hand holding? My gf left me 3 days ago... feeling kinda lonley here.

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Posted By: peterubers
Date Posted: July 12, 2007 at 3:31 PM

LOL!

This thread is gettin' good. :)



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: July 12, 2007 at 5:13 PM

JWorm] wrote:

ach programming???

Let me quote myself....

JWorm] wrote:

He may have also connected the white wire in the P9 harness. If so, that wire would need to be programmed as "Start Assist" in the programming. It looks like that is not the default setting. I am going to guess it looses that setting when you disconnect the battery.


Still don't see it?

[Holds Hand]
Page 17 in the manual.
[/Holds Hand]

Sorry for the sarcasm. Its been a long day.....

So....let me be for sure real clear on this.......go to page 17? and it should say there, how to do it? What I need to do that is, with the one wire?posted_image



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Posted By: s2ksc03
Date Posted: July 13, 2007 at 12:33 PM
Ok I see what youre talking about. Ill use the table see if I can reprogram...thanks for the patients...





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