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dei529t i think i got it almost.

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
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Topic: dei529t i think i got it almost.

Posted By: slawson2000
Subject: dei529t i think i got it almost.
Date Posted: July 15, 2007 at 5:29 PM

I want to hook up a DEI529 to my ESP150 in my Bronco to operate the rear window with the AUX button on my remote.  I would really like it to go down by the remote, going up would be nice too.

This is what I have come up with so far.  I think I can install it between the Master Tailgate Switch and the Tailgate Switch.

Wiring (per the diagram below)

DEI 529T                 Truck

Blue                         Motor side P/LG

Gray                         Nothing

Brown                     Switch side P/LG

Orange                   ESP150 H1/12 RED / wht

Black                       Ground

Gray/Blk                  Nothing

Red                          12V (+)

ORANGE / Blk             Don't know

Green                      Motor side PK/LB

White                       Switch side PK/LB

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So the questions I still have...

Is this right?  Will it work if installed between he switches?

How do I hook up the 2nd Activation Input to make the window go up?

Thanks in advance...




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Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Do the wiring between the switch and the motor.

Cut Yellow/Red.

Connect Brown of 529T to Yellow/Red from switch.

Connect Blue of 529T to Yellow/Red from motor.

Cut RED / Yellow.

Connect White of 529T to RED / Yellow from switch.

Connect Green of 529T to RED / Yellow from motor.

Ground signal on Orange will close until signal is turned off or released.

Connecting Gray to Orange will close with a ground pulse on Orange.

Ground signal on ORANGE / Black will open until signal is turned off or released.

Connecting Gray/Black to ORANGE / Black will close with a ground pulse on ORANGE / Black.

And finally the obvious: Red = B+, Black = Ground.



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Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 1:17 PM

Thanks for getting back.  I kind of figured it was headed the way of wiring it in back, but that is OK.  I got it all until:

Ground signal on Orange will close until signal is turned off or released.

Connecting Gray to Orange will close with a ground pulse on Orange.

Ground signal on ORANGE / Black will open until signal is turned off or released.

Connecting Gray/Black to ORANGE / Black will close with a ground pulse on ORANGE / Black.

I'm a newbie and need a little more explanation of the above as to where and on what do those wires go.  Somehow it it not sinking in...





Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 1:46 PM

When you hold the Orange wire to a ground, the motor will turn until you remove the Orange from the ground. This allows you to roll it part way and stop it at any time.

If you want the window to move all the way up or all the way down by just sending a quick pulse to the Orange or ORANGE / Black, then you need to connect the Gray and Gray/Black as mentioned previously.

This is because 529T will send out a constant ground on the Gray and Gray/Black when you just pulse the orange.

So connecting the Gray to Orange causes the module to self feed a ground to itself.



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Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 2:24 PM

The fog is starting to clear.

Now, I can see wiring it to roll down, but where (how) do i wire it to to the ESP150 to roll up as well?

Or am I limited by the ESP150 to pick one one option?





Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 3:26 PM

The RED / White on the ESP is the only usable channel, so, use it to roll down.

If momentarily grounding the Orange of the 529T nudges the window up then connect it to the Orange from the 150 ESP to roll up. The Orange from the 150ESP is a Ground when armed signal which will roll the window all the way up the instant you press the lock button on the remote.  Don't connect the Gray of the 529T to anything.



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Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 4:02 PM

Ooooo... we are getting close.

So if I hook up the RED / wht I should be able to push the aux button on the remote once and the rear window will go down - right?

And by hooking up the orange wires, when I lock the doors with the remote the window should go up.  I have a couple diodes in there and have a DEI629R hooked up as well.

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=95114&KW=scanning

Would I need another diode in there as well?





Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: July 19, 2007 at 9:40 AM

Using the aforementioned wiring scheme, if you connect the RED / White to the ORANGE / Black and press the aux button, then the window motor will turn until you release the aux button at which point the window will stop.

As for the up (close) direction, yes connect the Oranges together. Put a diode on the between the starter kill relay and the security system's Orange wire. Connect the 629 and the 529 to the Orange directly at the security system so there is no feedback from the starter kill relay's coil.

This should do it.



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Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 19, 2007 at 10:32 AM

I shall try and let you know how it works...

Thanks





Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 19, 2007 at 3:55 PM
New problem - Mounting location.  The unit looks like it will not hold up in any of these nook and crannies I can find in the back.  Am I wrong or can these things take a location like behind a tail light housing?




Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 7:32 AM
Any location is fine as long as it gets plenty of fresh power and ground. If you're sticking it behind the taillight then just be sure it doesn't get wet and mount it with the connectors facing down.

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Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 1:31 PM

It looks like moisture may be a problem.  After looking more at the wiring diagram, is there a good reason that the module could not be installed between the dash switch and the rear window switch?  It looks to me as if it would function the same.  Plus it would be mounted inside the truck.  One fall back would be if you tried to use one of the other switches while this was in operation you would probably blow a fuse.  But it would be a great install if I could move it in between the switches. 

Electronically I think it would work, though the internal workings of the 529R I am not familiar with.  What do you think?





Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 1:36 PM
The 529T has to be connected between the switch and the motor.  As long as the Green and the Blue of the 529T go to the motor wires directly without going through switches or relays first then you're OK.

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Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.




Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 1:53 PM

I am still not sure why.  I am not saying you are wrong, I just want to know why.

The tailgate switch (while at rest) connects the wires straight through to the dash switch.  Why should you not go through a switch?





Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 3:04 PM
It will work until someone decides to turn the key in the tailgate while the window is moving via the 529T - then it's "Holy Smoke!"

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Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.




Posted By: slawson2000
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 3:29 PM

That is what I thought.  I think the stock system is the same way.  If someone uses the dash one way and the tailgate the other... poof goes the fuse / fusible link.  I think the odds of that happening are small.  I think I am going to give it a shot, maybe put a fuse on the 529R ground just in case.  Otherwise I can not find a good place to mount the unit.

I'll probably tackle it Sun or Mon.   Let me know if you see any other problems.

Thanks






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