clifford concept 600 with trunk popper?
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Topic: clifford concept 600 with trunk popper?
Posted By: steven3002
Subject: clifford concept 600 with trunk popper?
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 9:00 AM
i have fitted a trunk popper to my car, ive done the wiring so that it only operates with the ign on and i have a momentory switch the car already has a g4 concept 600 installed, would i be able to make the trunk popper work via the remote
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Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 9:54 AM
Auxilliary Output A with Selectable Output Type
The output (GRAY/VIOLET wire) can be programmed as either pulsed, latched or timed and can be programmed to operate only
when the system is disarmed (e.g., for use as a remote trunk release). The output is activated by transmitting channel 2 from the 16-
channel master remote control. The factory setting is pulsed output (0.5 second ground). The latched output stays at ground until
channel 2 is activated a second time, and the timed output stays at ground for any selected duration between one second and four
minutes. Current is limited to 0.15 amp. See Installer-Programmable Features on page 16 for information on programming the output
type and/or disabling operation whilst the system is disarmed.
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 9:58 AM
I am assuming that you have the 12 volt lead hooked to your ignition and the ground through the momentary switch?
Posted By: steven3002
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 10:54 AM
fkelsey wrote:
I am assuming that you have the 12 volt lead hooked to your ignition and the ground through the momentary switch?
yes correct so how do i hook it up
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 7:37 PM
Just build a relay using the gray and violet wire as a trigger. 12v on 86, ground on 87, negative trigger from remote start on 85 and 30 will put out negative just like your momentary switch. Just go here to see actual diagrams of relays: https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relays.asp
Posted By: steven3002
Date Posted: July 21, 2007 at 3:33 AM
sounds straight forward enough what are you saying about remote start wire...i wont need that if i use the gray/violet will i would i need a diode in the pop wire ?
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 21, 2007 at 9:09 AM
I am sorry I meant the gray/violet from the reomote start and yes diode isolate them it never hurts. Hope it works out well just holler if you need anything else.
Posted By: steven3002
Date Posted: July 23, 2007 at 10:05 AM
thanks for your help im going to attempt wiring it up in the morning so a diode in each of the wires going into the " Y " right i dont have any diodes ...do i just ask for 1 amp diodes? 12v ?
Posted By: steven3002
Date Posted: July 23, 2007 at 10:44 AM
i need more help i want the relay to output momentary 12v+ when i operate the remote
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 23, 2007 at 4:15 PM
Cool then hook 12 volts up to 86 and 87 on the relay hook your gray/violet wire up to 85 and 30 will put out 12 volts.
Posted By: steven3002
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 8:39 AM
okay its working...and it worked first time too lol just waitng on those diodes now ...i wont use the dash switch incase i fry something would you place the diodes in each feed to the motor?
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 2:37 PM
Yeah I would just to be safe it never hurts.
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 10:25 AM
Yup never hurts.
Posted By: steven3002
Date Posted: July 27, 2007 at 10:10 AM
right more issues firstly the boot popper still operates via the alarm remote when armed, i thought it shouldnt work when armed incase i hit the remote when walking away? second issue...i fitted a diode in each wire that feed the popper ( 1 switch / 1 from alarm relay) when i opperate the pop the diodes get hot and puff some smoke the diodes i used are IN4004 after thinking about it , i assume they cannot handle the 10-15amps the boot pop needs , what did you have in mind when you suggested i run diodes?
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 27, 2007 at 7:42 PM
Yeah that is my fault I wasn't thinking until this post and I realized that you were using your 12 volt lead to pop your trunk. The one amp diodes are too small for that the good news is that they are really not needed since you are using a relay. The one amps would work if you were using a low amp ground. As for the only making it work you can take the relay off of constant 12 volts and hook it to your ignition wire and it will only pop when your car is running. Just like you have your switch.
Posted By: steven3002
Date Posted: July 29, 2007 at 5:22 AM
is there anyway i can make it work ...so that it only works when unarmed ? but no ign on its a bit of a pain if i just need to use the trunk , i dont want to have to get in and turn on the ign
Posted By: fkelsey
Date Posted: July 30, 2007 at 9:00 AM
Sorry for the late post here is what you do. Build another relay. Put constant 12 volts on 86. Hook your grounded when armed wire hook it to 85. Cut your 12 volt lead going to your trunk poper from your relay via your remote. Hook one side to 87a and the other to 30. When you arm your alarm the ground when armed wire will open the contact not letting tthe remote open the trunk. When you disarm it the 12 volts will pass through the 87a to 30 and your poper will work. Basically this is the same as a starter kill relay.
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