viper 5000, aftermarket pwr lock module

I am installing a Viper 5000 in a 1998 Jeep Wrangler (TJ) in which I have installed an after market power door lock system. The system consists of two actuators with a 5 wire actuator on the driver side and 2 wire on the passenger side. The wires are plugged into a control box that senses when the driver door is locked and unlocked and operates the passenger door. The module has the capability to be controlled by an alarm system and has two wires (red and black) for the controls. The black wire when senses a negative 12v locks the doors and positive to the red unlocks them. The control input wires on this module are very thin gauge, so I can't see them needing much amperage to make this system work.

The schematic looks like this:



The Viper 5K has a power door lock harness but I am not sure how to attach make it control this module.

The Viper has the following wires dedicated to the power locks:
violet ---unlock #87 normally open (input)
blue/black---unlock #30 common (output)
BROWN / black unlock #87A normally closed
Violet/black lock #87 normally open (input)
GREEN/ black lock #30 common (output)
WHITE/ black lock #87A normally closed
BLACK/ white Domelight supervision relay input #87

I assume I will have to use relays for this? Seeing that none of those wires see to pulse a (+) when the alarm is disarmed, will I havet to use a relay to invert the pulse?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Mike

Really, mikethejeepguy, the red wire needs a (+) and the black needs a (-). I would double check that. If that's what it needs, then this is how i would set it up. Good think though, your system has onboard relays. For unlock, violet needs 12v and the blue/black will go to the red wire of the door lock module. For lock, the violet/black needs to go to ground, and the GREEN/ black will go to the black wire of the door lock module.

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I assume I will have to use relays for this? Seeing that none of those wires see to pulse a (+) when the alarm is disarmed, will I havet to use a relay to invert   the pulse?

Relays are built in, and controlled internally by the brain!

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Thanks for the response... I will double check the wire on the keyless again. This power door lock system is not made in North America and the instructions are very vague (read non-existent except for that diagram).

The way I came to the +/_ conclusion is I connected a wire to car ground and touched the black wire (figured that's the safest bet) of the module. The doors locked. I then touched the red wire with the ground and nothing happened. I attached a wire to the battery positive terminal, touched the red wire of the module and the doors unlocked... the black wire won't respond to + either. The whole set up puzzles me.

I wonder if it would be possible and maybe easier to hook up the Viper straight to the wires of the actuators, kind of as a piggy back system. If I could get the alarm to lock the driver's door than the keyless would close the passenger side? Would that work that way? or will I fry the keyless?

I've installed a ton of stereos in my time, but I have to say that alarms are a whole other puzzle. though I have the alarm working fine with proximity sensor etc, just no door control .... yet

Touching wires thinking this is the easiest/safest way to detect current, is NOT a real good idea. It is however, a REAL GOOD way to pop somethin, and cause yourself some real headache's. Get a meter of some sorts.....any meter is better than none at all. Look @ sears. As inexpensive as 29.99.

https://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/subcat.do?Filter=Brand%7CCraftsman%5E&cat=Electrical+Shop&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Multi-Meters%2C+Testers+%26+Accessories&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&gridindicator=false

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Yeah I have one of those KarTuneMan... Though I was using it for the other parts of the alarm setup I somehow reverted to caveman tactics by the locks, I blame it on the 4am daze :) I know doing that was dumb. In retrospect I should have used to meter.

Mike