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confusing viper programming

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Topic: confusing viper programming

Posted By: angelars
Subject: confusing viper programming
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 6:09 PM

Can someone please help explain to us how you set up a Viper 791XV for programming? We need to set up feature # 2-10 as latched. We open the car door, turn ignition on/off, press and hold the valet button until it chirps twice, and then we press the valet button 10 times and then once more only we hold it in and press the disarm button on the remote. We wait 15 seconds and the alarm chirps and programming turns off. Are we doing it right, does that sound correct?

How are we supposed to know if it's set up as latched, or another way to ask the same question is how are we supposed to know if it's latched, latched with ignition, 30 second timed, or second unlock?

Also, when it is set up as latched, does the channel 4 indicator on the remote stay on (while it's latched) or will the indicator just flash on/off like when you arm/disarm? Thanks.



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Posted By: ferretvw
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 7:11 PM
after you press and hold it you need to wait until the siren chirps 10 times indicating that it is indeed in menu item 10 then press unlock and it should chirp twice indicating it is in latched mode.
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Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 8:58 PM
Yes it chirped 10 times but what tells us it's in latched or latched with ignition or 30 second timer, etc... We saw nothing that tells us what option it's currently in. Are we supposed to just guess what feature is selected when we press the unlock button?




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 9:22 PM
I hate using the valet button.  Get yourself a bitwriter which cost around 70 bucks and well worth it.  It plugs into the alarm and controls all the alarm fuctions and extra functions that the valet button does not do.  It works on all DEI products and controls their amps.




Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 9:46 PM

I don't think spending $70 to program one alarm is the solution. You say step 2-10? According to directechs that is fad function with unlock......i think you are looking for step 2-12 channel 4 validity. If so, when you get to this programming step you need to press the unlock  button on the tx...you will get 2 chirps indicating latched, 1 chirp is validity, 3 chirps is latch reset with ign. 4 chirps is 30 sec timed



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Posted By: enice
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 9:53 PM
what I really mean is that if you will work on DEI products more often then it is well worth it.




Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: July 24, 2007 at 9:59 PM
I agree with you on that. When i was working with Dei, the bitwriter was invaluable. So much easier.

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Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 12:26 AM
mikvot wrote:

i think you are looking for step 2-12 channel 4 validity.

HUH??? posted_image That's really weird, our Viper manual clearly says it's 2-10 (see below). There isn't a 2-12. Could you double check?

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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 1:04 AM
The Viper 791XV has been out for quite a few years now. I'm gonna guess around 5 years. Over that time they have added more programming options, and more wires. You need to make sure the production date of the manual is the same as the alarm brain.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 6:44 AM

I've gone both routes here, I still prefer  manual programming of Clifford product but when I comes to Viper it's got to be the Bitwriter every time, see what you're doing press a button and wham it's done. If the the first post is not a dealer, go to a dealer with the Bitwriter and get it done PROPERLY.

p€.S. Now Clifford is going Bitwriter I might even buy rather than borrow!





Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 11:39 AM
JWorm] wrote:

You need to make sure the production date of the manual is the same as the alarm brain.

Where would we find this information, and is there a link to the latest manual?




Posted By: captainzab
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 12:53 PM
on your brain, at the bottom, there will be two small circles with an arrow pointing to numbers.
One will be the Month, the other Year. (you will know which is which)

You can also check to see if you even have a channel 5 and 6. WHITE/ black and ORANGE / black respectively. (channel 6 is on a red 2-wire harness)

If you have channel 5 and 6, refer to the one in the download section. (link at top that says Downloads)

If not, your manual is correct.


About the bitwriter, i mount my brain in such hard places to get to, that it would be more work to use the bitwriter than to use the valet switch.
(unless the car is already taken apart, then i use the bitwriter to program some features before reassembling)

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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 1:41 PM
captainzab wrote:


About the bitwriter, i mount my brain in such hard places to get to, that it would be more work to use the bitwriter than to use the valet switch.
(unless the car is already taken apart, then i use the bitwriter to program some features before reassembling)


Back when I worked for a DEI dealer, we installed a Bitwriter cable in every car. We would then cable tie the end of it to the diagnostic plug under the dash. If a customer ever needed settings changed, we could just plug in without ripping the dash apart. The cables are only about a $1 each for dealers.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 4:04 PM
Ref JWORMS last comment, we do the same thing here in UK for all Clifford product, we even keep old (version 1.1) on an old pc, loaded with Win 98 'cause it seems to have less glitches than  than version 2.2. We tie the Wiz ends to hood release cables, fuse box flaps, OBD sockets etc.




Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: July 25, 2007 at 7:01 PM
captainzab wrote:

If you have channel 5 and 6, refer to the one in the download section. (link at top that says Downloads)

Neither of those manuals in the 'Downloads' section show a feature 2-12.

Could someone post a link to the one that does? Thank you.





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