Ford Sport-Trac remote start problem

Ok, installing an Omega RS-7K2 remote starter. Using a DEI 555F to bypass. Having a problem. Cannot locate the DK GREEN/ Purple wire for the factory alarm disarm. It is not anywhere on the left side of the vehicle. I have spent 3 hours lookinhg at every wire and it is not there. What the vehicle does now is this. I take a key, turn it to run, wait for the alarm light to go off, then place a second key in, do the same, then place the chip of the DEI near the opening and remote start the vehicle. The car starts, but the alarm light flashes. When I try to move the chip the car will not start at all. If I go through the whole process again, I can get it to start once. So I need to know where the heck that dk GREEN/ purple wire is, and what alse I may be doing wrong.

My personal vehicle is a Sport Trac, I did not have to hook up an alarm disarm on mine, if the wire is not there (as in my case) then you dont need to hook it up.  As far as the imobilizer is concerned (that is what the security light in the dash is for)  You are doing it right.  Make sure your connections are correct on the 555f.  If it is not getting a ground from the RS unit on remote start request, that would explain your problems.  What year is your sport-trac?

And clarify.  Vechilce starts and runs just fine on remote start, but the security light flashes?

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

For the 555f I have the red wire going to a fulltime (+) supply. The blue wire (-) is being triggered off the secondary ignition 3 prong port through a relay. What I did was take the red and blue wires from my red 3 port plug and I use them to energize my relay. I then supply (-) to the 30 on the relay and pull the (-) from there to the 555f blue wire.
When I put 1 key in, turn it on until the security light goes off. Then I quickly remove it and place a second key into the ignition and do the same. Then within 10 seconds I place the chip in front of the ignition and I start the car with the remote starter. It will start but the security light flashes rapidly. It will stay running. If I then shut the car down (tap the brake, hit the start button, it doesn't matter) it will not restart no matter where I place the chip.

I may be reading it wrong, but your engaging the 555F off a secondary ignition wire??  My question is, does it engage also when you turn the key on?  If your tapped into an ignition wire, then it will get power when you turn the key on.  If thats the case then your computer in your truck will not go into learn mode.  It would be seeing two different "codes " at one time.  Let me know if thats the way  you  have it hooked up.  Also, the "alarm" system has nothing to do with the vechilce starting.  It only arms when you lock the door with the door open, then close it.  My sport trac does not have that system.

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

My remote starter unit has a three port plug that provides an additional source incase your car has a secondary ingnition wire. It has 3 wires: red - provides a constant 12 volts used to power the relays coil; blue - provides a 500mA negative output which basically provides the same function as the 12 gauge blue primary ingition wire. It is also used to trigger the relay coil. The other is a green that is a 500mA wire that is used for a secondary starter circuit. I am using the red and blue wires to activate the relay coil and thereby suppling 12 volts (-) to the chip.

Try this then, do not have the "eye" of the 555F near the ignition switch, cycle two keys, then put it near the Ignition switch and request remote start.  If that doesnt work...??? then im at a loss.  What year is the Sport Trac.  I used a Trilogix PKF to bypass my key.  But it only works on 01. 

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

It is an '01 as well.
That is what I have been doing. The chip is hanging 12-18" away from the cylinder, I cycle 2 keys, then bring the chip up and it remote starts no problem. I then tap the brakes to shut it down, and try to restart it and nothing. I have moved the chip all over the ignition area, but all it does is try 3 times (it does not turn over), then shuts down.

What wire are you using as the nypass module trigger ? Test this wire to ensure that it has current throughout the remote starter sequence.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

On the Omega, there is a red three port that is used when you have more than 1 ignition or starter wire. Since the Ford does not have either, I am using the red (12v + constant), and the blue (500mA - trigger)on this red three port, to activate a relay coil and then running 12v (-) through the 30 on the relay to fire the 555F blue wire. The red wire on the 555F is connected to 12v+ fulltime source.

Try to direct wire the 555F, to see if its dropping out.  Jeff I think is saying that your power may be dropping off during crank from your Rs.   If all else fails, get a PKF.  This unit doesn not use an eye, or antenna ring, it hooks direcly to the wiring coming from the lock cylinder.   Next question is why are you using a relay? 
Why not hook the - wire off the 555 directly to the Rs?  It is an extremly low amperage circuit, less then 100 mA.

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

Is the BLUE wire off the Omega the GROUND OUT WHEN RUNNING WIRE ? If this is correct, the hook it straight up to the 555F module as Haku suggested. If the BLUE wire is not a GROUND OUT WHEN RUNNING wire but  has another characteristic, then that is your problem. Test the BLUE wire to ensure proper wire characteristics and post your results.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

The DEI 555f wont work on the sport track u need to use a universal bypass

OK, two things here now:
1. Does the 555F work on a Sport-trac? I was told that it did by the company I bought it from. Several sites that I have visited also indicate that it does work for a 2001 Sport-trac.
2. The light blue wire coming off the 10 pin on the Omega is a (-), and is supposed to be used as a alarm disable. According to wiring diagrams the alarm bypass wire is supposed to be dk GREEN/ purple located in the drivers kick, but there is no dk GREEN/ purple wire there. Should I hook up that light blue wire to the 555f?
3. The dk blue wire I was referring to prior comes off the red 3 pin (red: fulltime +, Blue: negative trigger for secondary ignition, Green: negative trigger for secondary starter circuit) port that is designed to fire a secondary ignition (if needed) via a relay. Should I not use this wire and instead try hooking the light blue directly to the 555f blue wire

1. My notes tell me that the 555F is not compatible with the Ford Sport Trac.

2. You are using the wrong wire. This ALARM DISABLE is only a pulsed (-) . What you want is a wire that has a constant (-) throughtout the remote start sequence.

3. Yes, use this DARK BLUE wire instead of the P10 BLUE wire.

If the problem persists, then you know you have the wrong bypass module. If it is correct and the truck starts, then you save yourself a trip down to the shop to exchange for a different module.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Well that doesn't sound like good news. I am NOT using the light blue wire now. It is currently not attached to anything. I do have the dark blue wire tripping the relay coil and having the relay supply (-) power to the 555F.
What do you guys recommend for a bypass unit that will work?
Argh! (Sorry just venting.....)
Jeff

PKF is what I used on mine, fast, easy, and no eye to deal with. 

Here is a link for one.  $19.95 (shipping included), thats the cheapest I have found. 

https://sitemanager.theinternetsolution.com/hometronicz/inc/pdetail?v=1&pid=140

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

Hak,
Just to make sure...
Yours is on a 2001 Sport-trac right?
You have keyless entry (if that makes a difference???)
How do you install?
I will order it ASAP if I am sure it will work...seems like I got suckered last time!
Thanks in advance!

It will work, they are very easy to install.  Mine is a 2001 Sport Trac, with factory keyless.  Below is a link on the instructions for installing, if you want to take a look before you order.  I have two of these in stock, I purchase from the same seller you will purchase from.  I would rather install the PKF over the 555F, 555U anyday!!

https://www.12voltdirect.com/manual/PKF_030502.pdf

This kit works on all 2001 Sport Tracs.

Also works on the normal Explorers bulit before 04/00

My production date is 07/00

If you have anymore questions you can email me at ip3@centurytel.net

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Hak

Siemens Autostart

Easy solution is go directly to Ford and get the correct bypass to start with. You do not need to disable an alarm that is not there. Ford uses a different immobiliser on different vehicles. The ford unit is cheap and works everytime. I believe there are three or four types. Ford will know which one to use. If you cannot find the right one I will look it up tomorrow and tell who you can order it from. I buy mine from the local Mercury dealer here in Florida.

DanDan

Thanks Guys.
2 things:
Hak: the application chart on that bypass kit does not list Sport-Trac.
DanDan: Ford sells a bypass kit? If I call the local place the parts department will know what I am talking about? How is the installation?

Not to butt in but the ford bypass is a similar style to the 555f. The problem with these is that the transponder in them will freeze and not work in cold weather. That's where the PKF really shines. You are making it a little hard on yourself if you're using a relay from the dark blue wire to trigger your bypass. You can use the blue (-) ignition out from the 3 pin connector to drive your bypass directly. Actually, we carry a version of the PKF from Omega that plugs directly into all Omega remote starts. It is $19.95 but it doesn't include shipping. I hope this helps even more.



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Mike
Sales/Tech Support - KICKYRIDEoCOM mobile electronics
MECP 1st class-Security Specialist

Mike, tell me more about this Omega bypass. What is involved? How does it plug in? Do you have any technical specs on it? Will it work on my 2001 Sport-Trac?

You can check out the installation sheet at https://www.kickyride.com/db-pkfinstallsheet.pdf. It consists of 5 wire connections at the PATS receiver on the ignition switch. Then you just plug in the small 3 pin connector to your RS-7K. It functions just like an extra key (like the 555F but without temperature related short comings). Another thing to keep in mind is that most of these bypass kits give the typical programming procedure. Most of them do not tell you that some ford vehicles vary from this "key learn" procedure. The best thing to do is consult your vehicle's owner's manual on how to add additional ignition keys. That is the sure fire way to program one of these bypasses. If you are interested in the bypass, just email us off the forum and we'll get you fixed up.

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Mike
Sales/Tech Support - KICKYRIDEoCOM mobile electronics
MECP 1st class-Security Specialist