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window module with no alarm

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=97191
Printed Date: May 10, 2024 at 1:44 AM


Topic: window module with no alarm

Posted By: corsasri
Subject: window module with no alarm
Date Posted: September 17, 2007 at 5:08 AM

some one probably know how to do this. i want to fit a window closure to my car but want to know how to get them to work with out an alarm. as normaly most alarms have a wire that goes to earth when armed and so closing the windows.  maybe i a relay or something that is wired to my central door locking.

so that my windows will close whem my car is locked using the factory remote and dose not have an alarm system fitted




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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: September 17, 2007 at 7:20 AM
If we knew what kind of a vehicle you had, it would be much easier to help you.




Posted By: corsasri
Date Posted: September 18, 2007 at 2:26 AM
i have a brand new smart  forwo that was only released to the public on the 15 of september the 1.0ltr turbo version




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: September 18, 2007 at 6:09 AM

I couldn't find anything on a Smart Forwo  but I did find this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Smart_Fortwo_Cabrio.JPG     Would this be similar to what you are driving?





Posted By: init
Date Posted: September 18, 2007 at 1:15 PM
The trick would be telling the window module to close the windows only when the factory remote is used.  If you had the windows down and locked the doors, and you wired in the window rollup module to activate when the door lock wire is active, then the windows would roll up, too.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 19, 2007 at 4:07 AM

Go to the fusebox/body control unit, find the lock motor wire, it will sit on ground and go live for about 1sec when you actuate the locks.

Use that wire to activate a timer such as the DEI unit (908d?) , set for 2 secs longer than it takes to close your windows, then control a DEI 529t window closer from this. N.B. if this vehicle has factory ignition controlled centrasl locking you will need another relay to isolate, otherwise your windows will close when vehicle locks.





Posted By: eric-tech
Date Posted: September 19, 2007 at 2:00 PM

personnaly i would never use a dei pulse timer to do window rollup du to the fact that some vehicles, even when the window is up won't stop the motors as long as you press on the window button.  this means tha if your window is half down, the pulse timer will keep on giving power to the windows even if they are up.  meaning that the motors will force for nothing resulting in motors breaking down faster and they may malfunction...

use window roll up module as it has a current limitation circuit.  hook on the lock circuit of oem keyless or ground when armed output from an after market alarm or remote starter.

eric



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 19, 2007 at 5:29 PM
Eric-Tech, sorry but either I wrote it wrong or you didn't read what I said, the pulse timer was simply to give 5-8 secs from a one second lock pulse, the 529t would be the closer unit.





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