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2005 dodge caravan, remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=97717
Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 11:47 AM


Topic: 2005 dodge caravan, remote start

Posted By: henrylfair
Subject: 2005 dodge caravan, remote start
Date Posted: October 05, 2007 at 7:31 PM

install remote start it starts and turn off engine and parking light dont work what is the correct wiring and which wire is use to disable factory alarm

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Henry Fair



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: October 05, 2007 at 11:35 PM
FACTORY ARM Violet/lt.blue Pin-14 on C3 connector at BCM   - 
 This is a 1-wire doorlock system which requires resistors, 5.2-Kohm to lock and 2-Kohm to unlock. For vehicles equipped with factory security, use only the VIOLET/BLUE security wire, as it also controls the doorlocks. Use 2-Kohm to arm/lock and 5.2-Kohm to disarm (double pulse to unlock all doors). See the DOORLOCK diagram for wiring details. A vehicle specific doorlock module may be available for this vehicle, contact your supplier to find out.
 FACTORY DISARM Violet/lt.blue Pin-14 on C3 connector at BCM   - 
 This is a 1-wire doorlock system which requires resistors, 5.2-Kohm to lock and 2-Kohm to unlock. For vehicles equipped with factory security, use only the VIOLET/BLUE security wire, as it also controls the doorlocks. Use 2-Kohm to arm/lock and 5.2-Kohm to disarm (double pulse to unlock all doors). See the DOORLOCK diagram for wiring details. A vehicle specific doorlock module may be available for this vehicle, contact your supplier to find out.
PARKLIGHTS WHITE/ brown Pin-18 on C5 connector at BCM   - 
 The light switch circuit is multiplexed. A Ground through a 5.6K resistor will activate the park lights. A ground through a 1.3K resistor will activate the headlights. See the appropriate TIP diagram.


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Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 06, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Thank you that was great info the only problem I am having is remote start the vehicle but the car shut off in 2 seconds i know it not the the wire that goes to the brake light because that been checked and is working corectly

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Henry Fair




Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: October 06, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Just insert the key and try remote start, if it stays running then it has sentry anti-theft transponder system.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: October 06, 2007 at 12:34 PM
I cannot imagine an 05 without a transponder...... I could be wrong though.

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Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: October 06, 2007 at 1:03 PM

KarTuneMan wrote:

I cannot imagine an 05 without a transponder...... I could be wrong though.

I 100% agree with you. I just want to point out to Henry what could be the problem. Just in case he didn't know. If everything is hooked up right, then next thing he should check the tach signal.





Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 06, 2007 at 9:05 PM

ok i am new to this i will try with the key in on position i have four wire at the distributor 2 brown and 2 blue wires which is the best wire to get a good tach reading also the starter shut i have not added and would like to add the relay has 2 green wires which i am suppose to cut a wire and and attack each end to the green wire and orange wire connect to alarm while the yellow wire go to key at ignition switch



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Henry Fair




Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 06, 2007 at 9:09 PM
i read somewhere if the key is not grey then their no sentry installed my key black

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Henry Fair




Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: October 06, 2007 at 11:03 PM

The TACH wire on the 2.4L is BLUE/GREEN or BLUE/TAN. On the 3.3L and 3.8L use the BLUE/GREEN, BLUE/TAN or BLUE/ORANGE as long as NOT BROWN / white

12volts
Starter
Second Starter
Ignition
Note : 2nd starter needs a (-)Negative thru a 180 Ohm Resistor

after you have set up the tach, your vehicle still wouldn't stay running then try again with the key insert but don't turn it to on





Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 12:12 AM
henrylfair wrote:

i read somewhere if the key is not grey then their no sentry installed my key black


let me guess, your key is black with a remote build in it? still transponder.



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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta




Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 9:23 AM
Any one know the easiest place to add my starter kill switch i got the wire to the alrm hooked up and the 12 volts ign now i have to heavy guage green wire were should i make their connect

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Henry Fair




Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 9:48 AM

My remote start dont have a second starter wire i have five they are

1. Starter output (+)  2. Accessory Output (+)  3. Ignition Output (+) 4. Second Ignition  (+) 5. Main Power (+)



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Henry Fair




Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Ok thanks for the info inserted key and restart the vehicle but instaed of car turning off right a way it turns off after about10 seconds

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Henry Fair




Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 12:17 PM

help us to help you, pls provide info on your rs/alm unit so we can figure out the problems you encountered.

yup, you need to hook up the neg starter thru an 180 ohms resistor. Connect 85 to groundout wire from rs/alm unit,  86 to starter wire, 30 to ground and then 87 ground thru 180 ohms resistor.





Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 12:26 PM
sorry i put start kill switch i meant starter kill relay

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Henry Fair




Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 2:22 PM

The Alarm is a Nitro model #BMW X433

I have hooked up the following wires

remote starter module: 1. starter output (+) Yellow Wire   2. Accessory (+) not used because not required for remote state 3. Ignition Output (+) Pink /White Wire  4. Second Idnition output (+) Not used N/A  5. Main Power at ignition Lt.Blue/Red wire

Secondary Harness for remote start : 1. (-) 200ma bypass output when remote start . connect this wire to the interface of remote start bypass module (Did not use this wire) 2. diesel wait to start input (+) cut not used Gasoline engine 3. (+) oil sensor or generator Cut did not use info said to use this or tach wire 4.Tachometer input or high voltage sensing conneted to the blue and tan wire at distributor

Primary Harness: 1. Siren output (+) connect to plus side of siren 2. parking lights (+) connected to pin 18 on c5 at the bcm 3: unlock #87a Normally closed Cut not used 4. unlock #30 common (output) connected to white connector  pin 21 thru 2.0 ohm resistor 5. unlock #87 nomally open (input) connected chassic ground 6. lock #87a normally closed cut not to used 7. Lock #30 common (output) connected to white connector pin 21 thru 5.6 ohm resistor 8. lock #87 normally open (input) chassic ground 9. constant 12+ connect to constant supply at top connect bcm 10. System hooked to battery negitive ground

secondary harness for outputs

1. Armed output (-) 500ma ground output while alarm is armed to activate relay hooked up to 85 of starter kill relay 2. second unlock (passenger unlock) output (-)200ma two stage door unlock  did not hook up 3. Auxiliary channel 5 output (-) 200ma not used 4. auxiliary 4 output (-) 500ma for windows module not used 5. dome light output (-) connected to dome supervisory white connector pin 33 (should i hook it to door trigger) 6. trunk release not  used (note starter kill relay is not hooked to starter wires yet just have 30 and 87a connected together into rest of alarm is fully working)

Harness for inputs and outputs

1. Factory disarm output (-) 500ma  not connect  2. Factory rearm output (-) not connected 3. optional sensor input (-) 4. hood pin input (-) not connect no hood pin in vehicle 5. brake input (+) connected to WHITE/ tan at brake pedal switch 6.negitive door input (-) not connected

hope that info you wanted if not just tell me thank you



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Henry Fair




Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 4:39 PM

Secondary Harness for remote start : 1. (-) 200ma bypass output when remote start . connect this wire to the interface of remote start bypass module...... use this wire to hook up a relay for the 2nd starter wire (-) see below :

Connect 85 to above (-) 200ma bypass output,  86 to starter wire, 30 to ground and then 87 ground thru 180 ohms resistor.

4.Tachometer input or high voltage sensing conneted to the blue and tan wire at distributor. Look like the tach is hooked up to the right wire. I never use that Nitro rs/alm so I can tell how the tach is programmed. If you want then pm me, see if i can sort out for u.





Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 5:21 PM
are you talking about the starter kill relay or 2 different relays

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Henry Fair




Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 07, 2007 at 5:35 PM

Is this the correct way to hook up my starter kill relay to the second starter wire the first or second diagram which is the correct one also do i also hook up the Secondary Harness for remote start : 1. (-) 200ma bypass output when remote start to this relay or a second relay

https://www.the12volt.com/relays/page2.asp#sk1



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Henry Fair




Posted By: henrylfair
Date Posted: October 09, 2007 at 6:35 PM

I am doing the following setup to relay but my relay harness has five wire and i am only using four do i just remove 5th wire or join to one of the other wires

Connect 85 to groundout wire from rs/alm unit,  86 to starter wire, 30 to ground and then 87 ground thru 180 ohms resistor



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Henry Fair




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: October 09, 2007 at 9:31 PM
if 87a is not mentioned, just do not use it and tape it up.

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).





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