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smartwindows 4 programming issue

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=97831
Printed Date: May 12, 2025 at 9:18 PM


Topic: smartwindows 4 programming issue

Posted By: richardodn
Subject: smartwindows 4 programming issue
Date Posted: October 10, 2007 at 10:00 AM

Hi all. I'm having a problem programming my smartwindows IV modules and I'm hoping someone can provide some insight. My layout is a Clifford IG750 alarm system and 2 SW modules. One is to control the front and the other the back windows. Modules are attached to the CliffNet bus in a daisy chain fashion. Programming is done via the CliffNet Wizard Pro v2.2 software and cable. The cable is plugged in at the end of the chain.

My problem is this. When both modules are connected, they both receive ID 1 instead of IDs 1 and 2. Needless to say this leads to erratic behavior. If either is connected individually, that module behaves correctly. Is this a limitation of the IG750 or should I be looking elsewhere? Does anyone know how the ID assignment works?

I have a secondary issue not related to programming the modules. I'm just looking for a sanity check. The windows themselves are on a switched circuit. (Actually it is controlled by an unloader relay that is energized in start and run but not when the starter is actually cranking.) The modules require a power source to perform the window roll-up on alarm activation.

My plan is to add a secondary window power circuit using a relay. The alarm will enable the circuit for 30-45 seconds after arming. Otherwise power is supplied using the existing switched circuit. I'll use a SPDT relay to ensure the existing circuit is not energized. I have looked into simply energizing the existing circuit for a short time using the unloader relay, but decided it was best to leave those circuits alone.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 10, 2007 at 1:37 PM
What vehicle is it? Make model year. 2nd point, if SW's are working correctly, you shouldn't need it.




Posted By: richardodn
Date Posted: October 10, 2007 at 2:00 PM
89 BMW 325iX

Reasons for adding second supply circuit.

1. Window switches are lit internally from the power supply causing them to remain lit.

2. Do not want the windows live when car is off. I do not always arm the alarm even when I lock the doors. Leaving the windows live would allow easier unauthorized entry.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 11, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Yes your idea for a secondary power supply should work but if you supply the modules from battery or fuse box entry or thick red to ign, this shouldn't be an issue, as for the programming try them one at a time?




Posted By: richardodn
Date Posted: October 11, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Thanks. The main feature I'm trying to get working right is the window roll up on arm. Normally, the window power is supplied on a switched circuit. On arm, the alarm unit sends a signal to the smartwindows modules to roll up the windows. If I leave window power on the original switched circuit, they have no power to roll up. If I use an unswitched circuit, then I have the previously mentioned constant current draw and reduced security. So in order for this to work, I need the window power supply to remain active for a short time while the system rolls up the windows and arms.

As for programming them separately, basic up/down limits can be set that way. I run into problems later when trying to use some of the remote functions. With them both on the same ID, I get some erratic behavior. Hopefully I can determine what exactly those issues are and work around them. Otherwise I'll have to take the rears offline and only get the basic one-touch functionality.





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