07 dodge pu remote start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 07 dodge pu remote start
Posted By: ranger svo
Subject: 07 dodge pu remote start
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 1:14 PM
I am just curious, does any one have a diagram on how to do the remote start on this truck? I can get it all but how do I get it to crank. I've never done one like this and I'm not gonna mess with it till I have more info Thank ------------- The moving power of mathematical invention is not reasoning but imagination.
Augustus de Morgan
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 1:39 PM
Bring it to a qualified pro Dude.. this is the best piece of advice your gonna get. I know of professional installers that did one of these trucks for the first time and it still took them over 6 hours to do a remote starter it in without damaging anything.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 1:40 PM
i'll second that..........
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Posted By: ranger svo
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Velocity Motors wrote:
Bring it to a qualified pro Dude.. this is the best piece of advice your gonna get. I know of professional installers that did one of these trucks for the first time and it still took them over 6 hours to do a remote starter it in without damaging anything.
I've only done about 150 to 200 remote starts in the past 12 years. How many do I have to do to be a pro? Thats what I'm trying to avoid, working on it all day. I've turned a couple of these away already. If I cannot have a 2 to 3 hour max turn around, its not worth my time. ------------- The moving power of mathematical invention is not reasoning but imagination.
Augustus de Morgan
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Using the proper bypass module will reduce the time it takes to install into one of these trucks. Fortin makes a good bypass that will take hours off your installation for the bypass and for the door locks and alarm system interface.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ranger svo
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 7:11 PM
Thank you for your fast reply, the ignition bypass won't be a problem. Its the starter wire. According to my info, the PURPLE / brown is both the starter and acc wire. What I think its saying is to take that line to ground through a 180-ohm resistor to start the truck. Once it starts I need to take that same wire to ground through a 610-ohm resistor to turn on the accessory line. Does that sound right? ------------- The moving power of mathematical invention is not reasoning but imagination.
Augustus de Morgan
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 7:32 PM
Hey Jeff,
Is this truck that much different than chrysler 300 or dodge magnum/charger besides the PU having bunches of wires required resistors?
If I have the proper CAN-bus(idatalink) unit, whats the installation time required? Assuming 07 Charger took about 4hrs.
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 7:35 PM
Yeah the info you got is correct. The RS wires do not vary, from what ive seen from other chrysler/dodge vehicles.
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 7:38 PM
Using a proper bypass module on these newer Dodge vehicles give you the resistor already in the bypass module as well as the Sentry bypass. Using the bypass mod will reduce your time using relays & resistors. The time it would take to do a new Dodge PU ( non diesel is about 2 hours )ranger svo, what bypass module are you using ?
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 7:44 PM
Say, that is sweet. I guess these more advanced body control systems today are to be more installer-friendly, dont you think?
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: ranger svo
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 7:57 PM
I've been using Omega bypass modules. The owner bought a lot of Autopage stuff recently. While I like the Autopage alarms and remote starts, some of their bypass stuff is a little out of date. I am more curious than anything else, this would be the first vehicle like this that I would do (if I choose to do it). I know that most GM's are also the same way. I'm gonna look into Fortin Electronic Systems tomorrow and see whats up. I need something thats a lot more up to date. I won't be doing this much longer ( I will graduate and have my Bachelors in Mathematics this May) but a couple of the guys I work with will be doing this for a few more years. But I need to make my life easy for atleast another 8 - 10 months ------------- The moving power of mathematical invention is not reasoning but imagination.
Augustus de Morgan
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 21, 2007 at 8:16 PM
Use the PATS-CHRYSLER04+ bypass module for this truck for the resistor start and the Sentry bypass. IMO, using the resistors for the door locks are the way to go instead of using the datawire, I haven't had ANY luck with any modules as far as Dodge/Chrysler goes for doorlock/security bypass.
If it's an Omega system chances are your going to have to use a PASS4 key required bypass module. Not sure if the IBU-CH2X will work on the new keys or not.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: saskpuller
Date Posted: October 22, 2007 at 11:21 PM
So tell us what problems have you encountered using a data wire system for the locks. I have been using the chdl7pk2 without issues. However that was on 06's only. Have an 07 for Tuesday afternoon. Sell me on why I should use the PATS4 and resistor the locks. I have heard from a couple other local installers that they have had problems with the locks on Dodge's but I'm not sure what bypass they were using.
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 22, 2007 at 11:35 PM
the only issue i've had was on one dodge ram using an ads-al-ca I could only get the drivers door to unlock. It wasn't a huge deal as the customer didn't care about locks.
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 23, 2007 at 8:41 AM
saskpuller wrote:
So tell us what problems have you encountered using a data wire system for the locks. I have been using the chdl7pk2 without issues. However that was on 06's only. Have an 07 for Tuesday afternoon. Sell me on why I should use the PATS4 and resistor the locks. I have heard from a couple other local installers that they have had problems with the locks on Dodge's but I'm not sure what bypass they were using.
This goes back a few years ( up until last year for the last episode ). I used bypasskit.com door lock and sentry bypass all-in-one modules on a few Dodge vehicles that used the data wire for the door locks and what would happen is the doors would lock randomly while the customer were driving. This happened on a 2003 Dodge Neon, 2001 Dodge Caravan & most recent ( beginning of last year ) a 2002 Chrysler Sebring Sedan.
The first 2 vehicles that I did I ended up replacing the bypass modules with just normal Sentry bypasses and used resistors to fix the door lock problem, but the Chrysler ended up having some problems at the BCM where even after I unplugged and removed the module, the doors were still locking while driving. This is why I do not use the door lock and Sentry bypass modules anymore. The resistors are much more reliable IMO and are fairly easy to install with the Compustar units because the ground output on the door lock wires are high current enough to trigger the Dodge door lock circuits without having to use relays. I have polarity inverters for the (+) Chrysler's systems so I just have 4 wires to hook up and no once again no need for bulky relays.
The PATS-CHRYSLER-04+ takes care of the resistance based (-) trigger starter and is very easy to install. The wires for the door locks on the truck is super easy to access as well so installing the door locks takes about 10 minutes MAX. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: vitrox
Date Posted: October 23, 2007 at 3:14 PM
xk532 is a much better bypass than the chdl7-pk2.. they do the same things but the 532 actually unlocks the passenger doors when the vehicle is running and the chdl7 does not. these bypasses do not work on all new dodge/chrysler/jeep, just be wary to the fact that you may still have to build the relays for the ignition.
Posted By: saskpuller
Date Posted: October 24, 2007 at 7:46 AM
Had an 07 Ram in the shop yesterday, last night and it's still there. Using an XK532 bypass. The unit powers up igntion wise but no crank. I have the 1k reisistor between the start line and ground. What am I missing? Could it be the factory security disarm with either the 1.5 or 8.5k? I'm at a loss! If I can nail this truck, there will be a tonne more for me to do, not sure if I want them though. Gotta get this out of the shop first. Need some help. Thanks
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 24, 2007 at 9:37 AM
You shouldn't need to use resistors on the 2nd START wire. The XK532 already has this built into the module. The OEM security doesn't stop the vehicle from starting, it only sounds the horn and flashes the park lights when triggered. Just wire up the VIOLET/WHITE wire directly to the MUX ( VIOLET/BROWN wire ). Also, make sure that the PINK wire on the XK532 goes to the starter wire on the remote starter system.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: saskpuller
Date Posted: October 24, 2007 at 4:31 PM
I've had enough. Pulled the starter from the truck. Backed it out of the shop and sent it on it's way. Of course, it will be back later in the week. The guy needed his truck. So what did I do wrong????? For the life of me, I can't figurre this out. I've tried everything (I think). The truck went to accessory - ignition mode but never cranked . Could it be the bypass kit? I might try a chdl7pk2 next time. I tried with the 1k resistor between pink and ground and tried without. I've tried isolating the mux wire. I tried isolating the pink-blue starter wires. This really sucks!!!!!!!
Posted By: ranger svo
Date Posted: October 24, 2007 at 4:49 PM
saskpuller wrote:
Had an 07 Ram in the shop yesterday, last night and it's still there. Using an XK532 bypass. The unit powers up igntion wise but no crank. I have the 1k reisistor between the start line and ground. What am I missing? Could it be the factory security disarm with either the 1.5 or 8.5k? I'm at a loss! If I can nail this truck, there will be a tonne more for me to do, not sure if I want them though. Gotta get this out of the shop first. Need some help. Thanks
My info says that it sould be 180-ohm to ground to make it crank. Now best I can tell the CAN SL2 doesnt have start capability. I havent done an 07 Dodge yet. To much info that I can not varify. Between school and work I don't have time to get back here in a timely manner. For now I'm gonna avoid those Dodges. ------------- The moving power of mathematical invention is not reasoning but imagination.
Augustus de Morgan
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 24, 2007 at 5:56 PM
saskpuller wrote:
I've had enough. Pulled the starter from the truck. Backed it out of the shop and sent it on it's way. Of course, it will be back later in the week. The guy needed his truck. So what did I do wrong????? For the life of me, I can't figurre this out. I've tried everything (I think). The truck went to accessory - ignition mode but never cranked . Could it be the bypass kit? I might try a chdl7pk2 next time. I tried with the 1k resistor between pink and ground and tried without. I've tried isolating the mux wire. I tried isolating the pink-blue starter wires. This really sucks!!!!!!!
You shouldn't need to use resistors on the 2nd START wire. The XK532 already has this built into the module. The OEM security doesn't stop the vehicle from starting, it only sounds the horn and flashes the park lights when triggered. Just wire up the VIOLET/WHITE wire directly to the MUX ( VIOLET/BROWN wire ). Also, make sure that the PINK wire on the XK532 goes to the starter wire on the remote starter system. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: saskpuller
Date Posted: October 24, 2007 at 6:29 PM
Jeff Did all that! Still no go. Had serious thoughts of driving into the lake but it isn't my truck so.... I thought that I wouldn't need anything but a bypass kit and possibly a 1k resistor from the pink to ground. Going to try a chdl7pk2 on this one next week. If that don't work, I'll go at it old school and use the xk532 for transponder and door locks. Any suggestions? I thought maybe the bypass was defective.
Posted By: ranger svo
Date Posted: October 26, 2007 at 9:43 AM
Judging from what I have read here, no one has done one of these yet. So for now I will continue to turn these away until I can get some real reliable info. Thanks for everyones input. It was appreciated ------------- The moving power of mathematical invention is not reasoning but imagination.
Augustus de Morgan
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 26, 2007 at 10:20 AM
ranger svo wrote:
Judging from what I have read here, no one has done one of these yet. So for now I will continue to turn these away until I can get some real reliable info.
Thanks for everyones input. It was appreciated
I have done about oh, 6 or 8 07 ram diesels including 3 with the new 6.7l engine. none have given me trouble at all.
I've used the XK532CHDL7, you do have to activate it the same time as the ignition though. if you activate it with GWR it won't work properly.
We use the idatalink ADS-AL-CA with those trucks and they work perfectly as well give you a tach output. ------------- Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: ranger svo
Date Posted: October 26, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Thank you very much, that what I needed to hear. I really appreciate the info.
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The moving power of mathematical invention is not reasoning but imagination.
Augustus de Morgan
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 26, 2007 at 4:20 PM
Chances are wiring issues on your part. I've done several of these trucks too and no problems as far as bypassing. ranger, what is your email address ? I will send you a Vision Aid diagram to help you go through the installation steps as I've documented my installations through pics that I've taken.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: vitrox
Date Posted: October 27, 2007 at 6:55 PM
i've done well over 10 of these, including diesels and manual transmissions.. easy..
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