compustar remote start, 2005 accord

Hey everyone!

Need some advice on an alarm I just got installed. The alarm is the CompuSTAR Pro P2WSSR, and the car is a 2005 Accord 6-Speed Coupe Navi.

After getting the car back from the installer, we went through the many options of the alarm, and I noticed something on the remote start that seemed funny. The funny thing was the starter crank. The car would start, but the starter would keep starting for another split second or so. The installer explained it was normal, and nothing could be done to fix this problem.

Well, I've had many RS alarms before, and usually this problem was the result of a bad adjustment time or something of the nature.

Please look at the video below, and you'll see right away what I'm talking about after I remote start the alarm.

Remote Start Video - CompuSTAR Alarm - CLICK ME!

Thanks!

tach wire hooked up? should be able to select crank time...

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---Travs---

your installer did not hook up the tach wire and program the tach. take it back and have it done properly

looks like the car is using voltage sense. rudydapump is right,bring it back and tell him to set the tach. it should stop the second the car starts. It might not be a problem now, but in the future when it really damages ur starter, ur gonna cry.

Thanks guys for the help. I'm taking back to the installer for fixing.

By the way,

Is there a way I can find out if the tach wire is installed?

Anything I can check on the controller or in the install?

Thanks!

While vehicle is running, press the foot brake and press the remote start button long enough until you hear a single click or a single light flash on the vehicle. If you get a single flash, then you have the proper tach wire and the tach is learned. If the installer used alternator sense, you will get 3 flashes and clicks.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Thank you VERY much :)

Well,

I went ahead and tried the procedure to find out which type of sense was used, and the car kicked back 3 flashes, then paused, and had one single flash.

so 3 flashes / pause / single flash.

what does that mean?

Thanks!

option 2-10 is not in default setting 1

that's what that means.

tach is blue/red on passenger side of center console.

I have had compustars with tach used overcrank worse than yours.

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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta

That means it's on ALTERNATING SENSE mode. Change it over to tach sense and grab the tach wire instead. The only Honda that I've ever had to use the alternator sense function on was the 2006 Honda Civic because the injectors and the coil didn't produce a consistent tach output that the Compustar unit could use. The 2005 Accords have the tach wire in a very easy spot to get to so I don't know why they didn't grab the tach wire ??

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

idk what ur installer was thinking realy, i dont trst tach sense or ne thing like that, jsut doesnt make since..

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---Travs---

Ok guys,

The tach wire is not installed. I tried turning on ignition controlled door locks, (1-09) #3 and nothing happened. I also tried option (1-09) #2 and nothing happened. So I'm not too sure what this installer did, but it seems he cut some corners on the install itself.

I adjusted the crank time to +0.2 on option (2-01) #2, and it seems a tad better. I'm wondering, if I choose the "standard" #1 option, if it will be lower crank time.

I'm getting the feeling that the installer didn't set any of the options. As I have gone through most of the options, it seems most of them are on default or "factory" setting.

I really appreciate the help guys. I've learned so much about the alarm system that when the installer comes back to fix it, he won't know what hit him when I check him on all these things :)

side note where did this get installed...private seller kinda place or circut city or what?

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---Travs---

This got installed at Audio Experts in Ventura. Audio/Video/Security Store.

Make sure not to fuss with the install. Write down everything you want corrected and present it to them. Tach is pretty easy on that weapon, wonder why they passed it up?

Trying to figure that one out myself. I'm sure when I talk to him, he'll give me an explanation.

proaly has a get it done yesterday boss..

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---Travs---

learning the tach will be more accurate on remote start?

yes i never do sense, works 50/50 unless its a chevy then tachless is fine

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---Travs---

yes, a tach sense is more leliable because once the car has starter, the unit looks for a tach input (low voltage) and tells the unit to stop cranking which will protect your starter motor. If you keep cranking, then over time serious problems might occur. For sure your installer installed a starter kill. dont know if he installed a anti grind.

Hello yet again!

Hopefully somebody can shed some light on this subject. After looking through 12volt, I was only able to find wiring information for 2004 accord which I think was an auto.

Apparently on the 2005 6-Speed Accord Coupes, the tach wire is in a different place then is described by other years. Currently, the car cranks for an addition 1-2 seconds. We have set the alarm to the standard low ignition crank time (.1), and have it set to the lowest tach sense as adjusted by the installer through timing the release of the clutch.

Right now, we are using the ignition wire to have the remote start work because we cannot locate the tach wire in my specific vehicle. Even the guys at CompuSTAR tech are stumped.

Hopefully somebody who has setup a remote start on a 2005 Accord Coupe Manual 6-Speed can shed some light on this subject and tell me which wire is the tach wire or whatever wire they used besides the ignition to setup their remote start because the automatic accords have the tach wire different then the manual accords.

Thanks for the info, I'm going to pass it on to the installer.

This is what we had to go on before in which we didn't find any wires on the 6-speed 2005 accord.

Tachometer blue/red or blue   ac   ECM/PCM
Notes: The ECM/PCM is on the front of the transmission tunnel.
The connectors are on the passenger side. On the 4 cylinder models
the tach wire is in the white 31 pin connector E, pin 25. On
the 6 cylinder models it is in the gray connector A, pin 23.

So now, your saying that we should look into:
The second is the pass side behind the center console V6 is pin E13

What color are the wire(s) that I should be looking for?

Thanks!

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Sorry answered my own question, just to clarify, on both (v4, v6)models the wires are white? on man trans models or auto?

It's a 31 pin connector, the wire is white for both, and it's a single cylinder signal.

Thanks!

How did the installer bypass the clutch ? Make sure that you use the RED / BLACK 2nd STARTER wire from the CN2 harness to trigger the clutch bypass instead of the status output wire. This will ensure that the starter will only engage as long as the starter out would crank.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

The clutch bypass is a lt.green @ the clutch switch. It requires a negative start signal. As Jeff said, a start signal, NOT a status output signal.

Thanks guys for the help! I've contacted the installer and compustar so we shall see what happens!

Thank you sooooooooooooooooooo much!