remote start, manual transmission
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: remote start, manual transmission
Posted By: Thack79
Subject: remote start, manual transmission
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Using a Python 871 to a manual tranmission. (Ive heard the horror stories but i dont leave my car in gear and no one else drives my car). Have two issues I have to press the clutch to start the car? Connect the neutral safety switch to what?? parking brake?? thanks forum
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Posted By: brhaugen
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 12:19 PM
There are remote starters designed for manual transmission vehicles.
I would suggest you buy one, doing what you propose is very dangerous and could kill someone under the correct circumstances.
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 12:28 PM
What you have stated has been said by everyone who wants to install these systems into their cars. Get a Directed 689m module for the remote start system to work the way it is intended to be.
Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Walking across the street could kill you if your careless. lol Will research the module.. thanks......
Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 1:39 PM
What kind of car is it? Some cars have NSS switches from the factory.
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Kevin Pierson
Posted By: huntersdad
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 5:59 PM
place a relay on the output of the clutch wire itself, if its ground then apply ground and vice versa. Connect the trigger of the relay to a wire that will pulse at start up so that the car thinks u just pressed the clutch. If thats to much just find out what it is on the output and apply it permanently (not the right way to do it but it will work). if your going to do it put a house alarm window sensor on the shifter ( really small and cheap at raio shack) and tie it in with the hood trigger so when u are not in neutral the car will think the hood is open and will not start.
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u ever flew on the ground?
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 6:28 PM
I heard Monday that an employee that works at one of our other stores had ran his car into a tree. Of course I asked if he was OK, they answered, well of course he is OK he was inside his house getting dressed. 1998 5 series. He had to get a ride to work. It ain't pretty any more. And he too is the only one that drives the car and he ALWAYS leaves it in neutral.
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 9:01 PM
Heres a thought......get a remote start designed for a manual trans. No guess, no worry, no problems. And foolproof.
Posted By: 07mustanggt
Date Posted: November 01, 2007 at 9:53 PM
Either ground the neutral safety switch or using the toggle switch that came with the 871. Connect n.s.s.wire to the top(on)BLACK/ white wire on the toggle and other side to ground. This way you can turn it on or off. Better safe than sorry. Think about if you ever take your car to get serviced or an oil change. You don't want some idiot to remote start your car in gear.
Posted By: deneyses
Date Posted: November 02, 2007 at 9:27 PM
What is the best remote start for a manual trans? What exactly does it do that you could not do with relays and a regular remote start system? I have a manual trans on one of my cars and am considering getting one it's safe. Anyone have a good one or install one that works?
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: November 02, 2007 at 9:36 PM
I dont recommend doing a non manual trans. designed r/s on a manual trans, but if you do here is a trick that a buddy of mine did that would not allow the vehicle to start if the car was in gear. He took 2 springs and placed them on either side of the shifter (approx. 1/8 inch away). Then solder a wire to each spring, and bring that to the hood pin. Make sure that when you mount the spring, they do not touch any metal b/c it wont work. How it works is that if the shifter is anywhere but neutral, it will provide a metal contact (ground) to one of the springs, which does not allow the r/s to start. However, this will only work if your shifter registers as a ground.
Kenny
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: November 02, 2007 at 9:45 PM
I am not sure of any brand names for the alarms you need, but this is how they work. When parking your car, before you turn the key off, You must put the car in Neutral, press the remote start button on the remote, then you turn your key off. The motor will continue to run. The alarm then watches for the door to open and then to close. After it sees this happen, it then kills the motor. As long as the door does not open again, it knows it is safe to start. If you go to your car to get something out of it you will need to go through the process again.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 03, 2007 at 5:48 PM
Offroadzj has the right answer, that or a hall effect switch adjacent to the gear switch, but how do you trust people (I have thought of other words here) to wire those springs correctly and TEST it first when we have to explain why we put diodes into door contacts at least once a week?
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: November 03, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Posted By: johnshenanigans
Date Posted: November 03, 2007 at 7:46 PM
I use an Ultra start in my manual trans '99 Nissan Frontier. Absolutly no chance of it starting in gear. It must be in reservation mode, which means parking brake must be engaged, transmission in neutral, then press brake pedal, horn honks twice to acknowledge, turn ignition switch off and vehicle stays running (similar to a turbo timer in turbo charged car), then exit vehicle, vehicle engine shuts off when driver door closed . If driver door is opened without first remote starting vehicle, reservation proceedure must be repeated, a safety feature to prevent accidently being bumped into gear. Ultra start for MT requires the following additional connections, parking brake switch , clutch switch, driver door pin switch and must have tach wire connected to valid source. I would never use a remote start designed for an auto trans in a manual. I have a friend that installed an auto trans in a manual and was accidentally left in gear, when it was started he heard something crash outside his house and found his car bouncing of his landlords fence. John
Posted By: 7808
Date Posted: November 04, 2007 at 12:35 AM
how come some comustar alarms sya for automatic only?
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