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99 ford contour, avantguard 4

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 9:09 PM


Topic: 99 ford contour, avantguard 4

Posted By: showngo2000
Subject: 99 ford contour, avantguard 4
Date Posted: September 11, 2007 at 6:24 PM

Ok, so I've a PKF1 for my 1999 Ford Contour from bypasskit.com.  I have hooked it up as follows:

TX:  WHITE/ Green

RX: Gray/Orange

GND: BLACK/ Green

IGN: GREEN/ Black

Here's the Problem.  When I "program the module", with my PATS key, then use my non-PATS key to start the car, it works fine.  Then, I'll turn the car off, and wait until the PATS system is activated and try it again.  Only this time, my non-PATS key will not work, unless I reprogram the module. 

It's as if the PKF1 module is not saving the correct information from the PATS key when the system is disengaged. 

Any suggestions?

Thanks!




Replies:

Posted By: captainzab
Date Posted: September 12, 2007 at 10:06 AM
did you hook up the Brown wire from the bypass to your Status output of the starter?

when you say non-pats, are you saying that you are using a non-chipped key to start your car?
or are you saying after you remote start your non-chipped key doesnt work?

bypass module is used to temporarily bypass the PATS during remote start, you will still need your PATS key that you used to program the bypass to drive the car.

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Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: September 25, 2007 at 8:57 PM

https://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/fJBSXChEtQp5/__sr_/97bb.jpg?tkn=phwsc.GBcLVvmMtW&saveas=thing

This is in my Clifford AG4 box.  The part number on the bag is 30-835.  Is this a temperature switch?





Posted By: ringojam
Date Posted: September 25, 2007 at 9:11 PM
Yes it is used on the g3 and g4 series cliffords to acuate the remote start on cold days ,the temp had to be programed by the clifnet wizzard on the g4 series.Have  not seen one of these in yearsposted_image iust to throw them away its too hot here.

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Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: September 26, 2007 at 7:36 AM
So, since it gets cold here, should I put it on the car?  Where and how does it hookup?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 26, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Clamped to top  radiator hose. Actually I thought it was simply a temperature sensing device that grounded the hood switch thus preventing R/S being used if too hot.




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 06, 2007 at 7:41 AM

Hello all.  I am installing an Avantguard 4 on my 1999 Ford Contour SVT.  I am to the point of hooking up the windshield wipers.  What function does this alarm do with the wipers? 

Also, I have not been able to find a wiring diagram with the windshield wiper wires on it.  Does anyone know where I can find the wiper wire?

Thanks for the help!





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 06, 2007 at 10:47 AM
If wired correctly,including headlamps it will bring on the headlamps as soon as you operate the wipers. Open steering column cowl, check leads coming from wiper switch, one of these will either go pos or neg when you engage first speed on wipers.




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 09, 2007 at 10:19 PM

I have an Avantguard 4 that is being fitted to my 99 ford contour.  I am using Cliffnet Pro trying to access the Intellistart IV, but the icon in the program never comes up.  It is always greyed out.  What will cause this?  I have the data cable coming straight off the AG4 to the Intellistart IV, then out of that, I run it to the laptop...is this correct?

Thanks





Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 09, 2007 at 11:33 PM
Ok, so I figured that issue out.  Now for another.  When I go to set my car in "manual transmission mode".  The parking lights will blink once (instead of twice like they should).  In the install manual, it lists what to do if your lights blink 3,4,5, or 6 times...but not once.  Does anyone know what this means?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 10, 2007 at 1:43 AM
Hood open?, lead for parking brake going to ground?, the diagnostic (in and out) should show you.




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 10, 2007 at 10:50 PM

That's just it, the diagnostic in/out is all good.  No hood, doors, trunk, or anything else open.  I double checked the parking brake connections, and they are correct. 

When I start the car with a key, the car starts.  Then, I press the * button on the remote to try and activate the manual transmission mode.  The parking lights flash twice, and I hear the clutch bypass relay engage.  Then, the parking lights flash again.  It's like they do a double pulse, pause, single pulse.  I try to start the car from cliffnet, and it does the same thing with the parking lights.  When I turn the ignition off, the car dies.

According to the install manual, three parking light pulses (which I'm assuming that's what it is doing), says to check the ignition wiring.  I've looked and looked and cannot figure this out.  The car is a 1999 Ford Contour SVT, manual transmission. 

I have it hooked as follows:

WHT/BRN  (from AG4 )  -- Ignition wire(key side)  GREEN on car

GRN/BLUE (from AG4 and IntellistartIV)   -- Ignition wire (coil side)  GREEN on car

Since I can hear the clutch bypass relay click when I try to activate manual transmission mode, I know that it is probably not that.  From Cliffnet programming, I can turn on/off the ignition, so I am assuming that this is good.  Is there something that I need to do that I don't know about? 





Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 11, 2007 at 8:42 PM
anyone?




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 5:52 PM

I am in the process of putting on an Avantguard 4 on my 99 ford contour manual transmission.  I have made all of the proper connection for remote starting, including a clutch bypass relay, and a PATS bypass module.  When trying to remotely start the car, the lights flash once, and nothing else happens.

So, I grounded the BLACK/ green wire and made the alarm into automatic transmission mode.  Now, the car starts and immediately dies. Is this a common problem?  Is there a fix?

Thanks.





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 9:32 PM
If it's a manual tranny remote start you have to go through a sequence in order for the system to activate. Another thing to check would be the tach signal is the proper one.

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Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 10:19 PM

Thanks for the reply.  I have tried this sequence to go through:

Start the car.

Put in neutral, engage handbrake.

Press (*) on Companion Remote (Button 11 on master)

Clutch bypass relay engages.

Parking lights flash once. If I turn the ignition off, the car dies.

Hmm....Tach signal huh?  On a 1999 Ford Contour, I am tapped into the PCM at pin #48.  This shows to be the tach signal on every wiring diagram I've seen.  However, the Avantguard 4 install manual shows I need a negative input.  I'm wondering if the signal that I'm tapped into is a positive one.  Any more suggestions of where to tap into a tach signal?





Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 12, 2007 at 10:41 PM
In the Avantguard 4 and 5 install manuals, on the Engine Bay connections page , under RPM monitoring (page 12 for the AG4), it says to "refer to RPM Monitoring section in this binder for information".  Does anyone have this RPM Monitoring section of the binder?  Thanks




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 13, 2007 at 4:22 PM




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 13, 2007 at 5:02 PM

Read the section again on manual transmission enabling, you are doing it WRONG, tach, go to injectors, there will be 4 wires the same colour and 4 different, connect tach feed to one of the different wires. Programme it manually, the Wiz software is glitched to buggary. the easiest way to pypass your Ford Mondeo sorry I mean Mercury Contour is to remove the chips from BOTH keys and acrylic glue one chip to top of antenna ring around ignition switch, wait 5mins and then test with (chip removed) ignition key, that way you wont need a by-pass





Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 13, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Does the A/C Heater (gray) wire HAVE to be connected for remote start to work?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 1:00 AM
Connect it to heater output or 2nd ignition, not required to start car but neccessary if you want heat/AC




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 6:26 PM
So I connected the tach wire to the fuel injector negative side...the alarm does the same thing.  Is it positive that I need to cut BOTH the starter and ignition wire on the car?  What will happen if I don't cut them?




Posted By: OmarR
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 7:43 PM

i am sure it will still work if you dont cut your ignition and starter wires, but why would you NOT want to cut them? The AG4 has open kills on those 2 circuits. If a thief finds and yanks out the brain, your car is still not going anywhere.

Did you do the MANDATORY RPM programming?

It is column 1, row 15 of the Programmer Menu, NOT the user menu. 

PCM pin 48 is the correct tach wire. It's not the only way to go, but you had one of the correct methods the first time for tach.

Your hookups to the green ignition wire look good.





Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 14, 2007 at 11:12 PM

I have cut them, I'm just trying to narrow my troubleshooting.

When I look at the "Monitor" tab of the Cliffnet Wizard software, the Intellistart Activates when the manual transmission sequence is entered, then deactives after about 3 seconds.  The "engine is below idle" is ALWAYS highlighted in red.  So, I tried reprogramming the RPM's, but nothing helped.  Maybe this is the problem.

After engaging the manual transmission sequence, everything seems normal now..two parking light flashes, clutch bypass relay engages.  However, when I remove the keys, the car dies.  I have not had the Intellistart to successfully keep the car running yet.  What does this mean?





Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 15, 2007 at 6:44 PM

SUCCESS!!...well partly.  I found one problem I had.  The two red power wires that go to the intellistart IV...one of them was not getting power.  I'm guessing that this was the wire that kept the car running when no key is in. 

Anyway, now I can remote start the car perfectly if it is in AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION MODE.  When I start the car with the key, then enable  the MANUAL TRANSMISSION SEQUENCE, I'll take the key out, and the car stays running (like it's supposed to), then I'll get out and arm it.  The car will not die, but the alarm will arm itself.  When I disarm the alarm and turn the car off by tapping the brakes, I have to input the VALET CODE into the keypad or the lights start to flash, then about 10 seconds later, the alarm sounds.  When I enter the code, all is disarmed and normal.

Does this have anything to do with BLACKJAX?

Thanks for the help thus far, you guys are great.  Sorry I'm so stupid.





Posted By: OmarR
Date Posted: November 15, 2007 at 6:49 PM
That does sound like BlackJax. Just turn it off if you dont want to deal with entering your code every time you enter your car.




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 15, 2007 at 7:15 PM

Ok, fixed the light/alarm/valet switch.  Dang BlackJax. 

The car still will not turn off once it's armed after manual transmission mode is activated.  Any thoughts?





Posted By: OmarR
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 12:10 AM
How did you connect the BLACK/ green wire off of the Intellistart module?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 3:50 AM
DISCONNECT the BLACK/ green from ground, then with engine running and parking brake on punch in the buttons noted as remote start manual enable in the owners manual, exit the vehicle and turn the alarm on. This will shut down the engine within 3secs or so. Provided the alarm hasn't been tampered with button 4 should remotely start the car any time the alarm is on.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 3:59 AM
P.S. The buttons you should press above are:- Master remote, level shift twice then button 3 (6 o'clock position) 4 button radar remote, trunk release and headlight together.




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 7:29 AM

OmarR] wrote:

ow did you connect the BLACK/ green wire off of the Intellistart module?

BLACK/ Green is going to +12V when the e-brake is engaged.  0V when the e-brake is disengaged.





Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 7:33 AM

That's backwards....0V when engaged, +12V disengaged





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 11:58 AM
If your car is a manual b/ack/green must not be connected to anything, definately not ground.




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 4:38 PM

My mistake, BLACK/ Green is not grounded nor is it hooked to anything.  I was thinking about the Blue/Green that goes to the e-brake.  I cannot figure it out.  If I ground the BLACK/ Green wire, the car will start fine, and act as it should.  But when I unhook the BLACK/ Green to let the alarm know it is a manual transmission, it will not start, even after the manual transmission mode procedure.  This is the procedure I'm doing:

Start the car.

Press * on companion remote

Turn off the key, remove it.

Car stays running.

Exit car

Arm Alarm

Car stays running until I re-enter and re-insert the key into the ignition and hit the brakes.  When the brakes are tapped, the car will turn off when the key is turned off.  It's acting like it's still in automatic mode.  I checked the BLACK/ Green wire all the way back to the Intellistart IV, and it is NOT grounded anywhere. 

When I go into the Cliffnet software, it shows the car to be in manual transmission mode, but all of the actions of the alarm is telling me it's still in automatic transmision mode.  What else can I try?





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 5:13 PM
This is the second and last time I'm going to tell you, you are using thre wrong procedure to enable the remote start. Read what I wrote 2 or three posts ago, I even told you what buttons to press * will only start the vehicle once enabling process has been done the Mondeo family is one of the easiest R/S jobs going, you don't even need a transponder by-pass if you know what you're doing.




Posted By: showngo2000
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 5:24 PM

I'm TERRIBLY sorry.  I misunderstood your post.  I misread the manual.  I am an idiot. 

Tried the correct sequence.  What do you know, it works like a charm. Thanks to everyone who stuck it out with me.  You guys rock!  Where can I paypal beer money to? posted_image





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 16, 2007 at 5:54 PM

Don't worry, we've all been guilty of that one, my trick is to advise people on relays then wrongly wire them for myself and manage to blow up alarm brains!

Remember the most relevant quote you will see hear is RTFM aka READ THE F***ING MANUAL! posted_image






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