rs 1000 remote start, 2006 dodge ram

Hello Everyone,

Having a little problem with an install on a RS-1000 OLED in a 2006 Dodge Ram 3500 w/diesel.  I cannot get the truck to remote start.  The lights, door locks and everything else is working okay.  I have  a 180 ohm resistor running through a relay.  Here is the way I have it hooked up:

87 - to ground with 180 ohm resistor inline

85 - to purple remote start wire of rs-1000 with diode (Purple remote start wire also hooked to dark GREEN/ YELLOW wire on truck)

30 - to truck side of cut MUX wire (PURPLE / brown)

86 - to ground output while running on rs-1000 (BROWN / black)

this is also running in conjunction with the required accessory relay and 610 ohm resistor.  The accessories will come on when trying to remote start but the engine will not crank.  Also the check engine light will flash after a few seconds and the security light will blink also.  If I insert a factory key into the ignition the check engine light will flash after a few seconds but the security light doesn't flash anymore.  I have a PATS CHRYSler 4+ and a CAN-SL2 module.  I did the programming for the PATS module and I got comformation that it was programmed.  Now, here is where is gets even more strange.  I have the relays grounded to the metal steering column cover but have the rs-1000 ground to the body of the truck.  The accessories turn on only when the steering column cover is not installed.  When I mount the cover back on the truck the accessories no longer work when trying to remote start.  Here is the connections on the accessory relay:

87 - to ground with 610 ohm resistor inline

85 - to ground out whill running on the rs-1000 (BROWN / black)

30 - to truck side of cut MUX wire (PURPLE / brown)

87a - to key side of cut MUX wire (PURPLE / brown)

86 - to brown accessory wire of rs-1000

I don't have access to directed tech notes but I here a lot about direct fax document 1084 and 1081 (for the wait to start).  If someone could fax me these for reference I would greatly appreicate it, 573-636-5030

Thanks for any help

John

so that module sends the 180ohm and 610ohm signal through?

Yeah, it will do key sense, disarm, transponder bypass & 2nd starter / 2nd acc, all those nice stuff, no more resistors & relays are required.

Yep, that's the way it is hooked up now.  I still can't get it to crank or to turn on the accessories.   Below is the wires that I am using.

Starter               dk. GREEN/ YELLOW       +       ign harn or starter       button (SRT-10)

Second Starter        PURPLE / brown       -       ignition harness
Notes: The second starter wire is negative trigger thru an 180 ohm resistor. MUST use a relay. Refer to DirectFax document 1084 for wiring information.

Ignition      pink/white              +       ignition harness
           
Accessory      same as second starter wire       -       ignition harness
Notes: The accessory wire is negative trigger thru a 610 ohm resistor. MUST use a relay. Refer to DirectFax document 1084 for wiring information.       
     

I have also tried an XK532 module and same thing, I can get the accessories to turn on but it will not crank.  I can hear the relays clicking and it sounds like somthing outside the truck clicks on as well.

Yep, you give the answer in the question...

Forgot to mention, what do I do with the accessory wire (brown wire) from the rs-1000?  I assume I don't hook it to anything since the PATS module does it?

The PATS use the ACC as an input not an output!!! You have to provide ACC from the rs1000.

Okay, tried another option I seen on the forum.  I am still using the XK532 module but am not using the orange, pink or pink/white wires at all and am using the following for the relays connections.

Split your remote starters negative out when running wire or 3rd ignition wire (ground out) into two wires each with a diode inline and the white stripe on the diode facing the remote starter. Take one end of one diode and connect it to terminal #85 of a relay. Take the other end of the other diode and connect it to the other relays terminal #85. Take one relay and call it the 2nd starter relay. Connect terminal #86 to the remote starters starter wire. If your remote starter has a 2nd starter wire ouput use it instead. If not you must also connect the trucks starter wire to this terminal. Connect # 30 to one end of a 180 ohm resistor and the other end to ground, # 87 goes to the violet/brown wire in the ignition harness. Take the second relay and connect the remote starters accessory wire to #86. # 30 to one end of a 610 ohm resistor and the other end to ground.# 87 to the violet/brown wire. Terminal 87a is not used on either relay.

I still get the accessories to turn on fine and I don't get any errors but it still will not crank.  wth??  I see 100 posts on here with the same problem and it doesn't seem like anyone has found a problem.  I don't have access to the 1084 document either.

PLEASE HELP!!

I have found a second PURPLE / brown wire in the steering column, that is the color that the MUX wire is supposed to be.  Any ideas on which one to use.  Funny thing, I don't have anything hooked to the MUX wire now and I dont have the XK532 hooked to the MUX wire either but when I try to remote start the accessories still come on??  I thought they wouldn't come on without a 610 ohm resistance.  The truck was made in Dec of 05, is it possible that it uses older wiring?

You are probably referring to the wrong mux wire, make sure to follow the wire up to the connector, there's two PURPLE / Brown in the harness, you can't even imagine how often the mistake is repeted, maybe in the 100 post you saw on the forum. lol

Check this out....

Hey Folks

Just got done installing a rs1000 in my 06 3500 diesel ram pickup and now my gear indicator light doesn't work and when the truck is running and in park and I open the drivers door the horn starts to honk (this is a safety feature that dodge built in, if you open the door when it's in gear and let off the brake the horn will honk).  The problem is i didn't run the park/neutral safety swith wire (BLACK/ white) to the park/neutral swith, I ran it straight to ground.  The reason the horn honks is because it thinks its in gear.  Can something in the canbus be affecting this.  I cant find a diagram for the wiring on the park/neutral switch.

thanks

Yeah, it will do key sense, disarm, transponder bypass & 2nd starter / 2nd acc, all those nice stuff, no more resistors & relays are required.