2004 ford escape, remote start
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 8:59 PM
Topic: 2004 ford escape, remote start
Posted By: pasthelp
Subject: 2004 ford escape, remote start
Date Posted: December 04, 2007 at 7:40 PM
Installed a remote start on my 2004 ford escape I need to install the 1100F bypass but I do not quite understand the wiring I think I can get the ground, constant hot, ignition input, and ground when running from the remote start but I do not understand where to get the TX and RX from. The directions are confusing. It shows a plug for the 2004 escape but it dosent say where the plug is or how to find it. Can anybody tell my how to find the TX and the RX ecm wier on a 2004 ford escape. And am I correct about getting the other wiers from the Remote start.
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Posted By: mobile1
Date Posted: December 04, 2007 at 7:49 PM
The RX and TX wires (along with a ground and igniton) will be in a green 4 pin plug around the key cylinder. There is a factory transponder ring around the key cylinder that this plugs into. Yes the other wires you mentioned can be used on the remote starter itself.
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 04, 2007 at 7:56 PM
I thought it may be the small plug that is pluged in behind the cylinder but it looks nothing like the picture on the directions they give you it also says 1. is ground 2. is ignition 3. is TX and 4. is RX do you know if that is correct. And one more thing I am sure the remote start is connected correctly but when I try to use it it just turnes everything on you here the fule pump, than it just clicks. I know it will not start without the bypass but shouldent the starter turn and just not start. ? ------------- know it all trucker
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 06, 2007 at 7:20 PM
dose anybody know what I should be looking for as far as locating the RX and TX wire on the ignition plug. what will I be looking for on my multi meter to know wich is wich ? ------------- know it all trucker
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 5:40 PM
dose anybody know what I should be looking for as far as locating the RX and TX wire on the ignition plug. what will I be looking for on my multi meter to know wich is wich ?
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Posted By: perly
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 6:21 PM
what year??? but if it is the same body as the 01 then it i a green plug right at the key cylinder basically, with four wires coming out of it. click here for thorough instructions
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 6:24 PM
it is a 04
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Posted By: perly
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 6:25 PM
ok well the link i posted has all the years so look on the chart then scroll to the third page and see what connector type u have
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 07, 2007 at 6:27 PM
Thank you
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Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 11, 2007 at 6:05 PM
I installed a remote start in my 2004 ford escape all works well. The only problem is that it is a cheap unit and the antenna is simply a 6 inch wire comming out of the unit. if I where to add about a foot of copper wier on to the end and run it up and out of the dash would that help the range. Or dose sombody els have a better idea THANKS
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Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 12, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Installed a remote start made by Ready start by directed electronics. it is simply a remote start not a remote keyless entry. I do have keyless entry but almost everytime I remote start the car the panic alarm oes off and the remote keyless entry dose not function I have to put the key in the door and turn it to make it stop beeping. Dose anybody know what I have missed in connecting the remote start ? by the way it is a 2004 ford escape and the modle # of the remote start is 24921
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Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 12, 2007 at 7:26 PM
let me try this from a different way the remote start I have dose not have keyless entry however I have a factory keyless entry . When I remote start the car the panic alarm goes off and the factory keyless entry dose nothing. I cannot find anything in the book on this dose anybody have a clue how to fix the problem 2004 ford escape with a ready remote 24921 by directed electronics THANKS
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Posted By: chadwa2003
Date Posted: December 12, 2007 at 7:38 PM
You need to send a pulse to the disarm wire in the kick i'm not sure what the colour is though. I think PURPLE / blue it should meter with you turning the key in the door.
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 12, 2007 at 7:48 PM
the remote start book indicates a WHITE/ blue wire that states .< Not reqierd unless trying into an existing keyless entry or alarm system with an auxiliary output.> than my escape wiering shows a pink and white wier for power door lock and unlock do I use these two I dont see a disarm lock wire. or would the disarm wire be the one that activates when I turn the key lock ?
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Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 12, 2007 at 7:50 PM
and will it meter a negative pulse or posative I think negative ?
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Posted By: lostissues
Date Posted: December 12, 2007 at 10:47 PM
you are looking for a wire off the remote start brain that is labled something like factory disarm, then you find the wire in the car it should be a dark blue/light green and it should be a negative wire. says its at the GEM module, 26-Pin Plug, Pin 19 wire will test about 12volts and then drop when you turn the key in the outside door cylinder. it may also be a case where when the ignition is on, the factory keyless will not work. i dont know of any way around it. Hope this helps, Jonathan
Posted By: perly
Date Posted: December 13, 2007 at 8:01 AM
pasthelp wrote:
let me try this from a different way the remote start I have dose not have keyless entry however I have a factory keyless entry . When I remote start the car the panic alarm goes off and the factory keyless entry dose nothing. I cannot find anything in the book on this dose anybody have a clue how to fix the problem 2004 ford escape with a ready remote 24921 by directed electronics THANKS
ok well your factory alarm disarm has been mentioned above but as far as your keyless goes when your car is turned on then the factory key fob is dead(it is a factory safety??? thing in many cars) You may be able to make it work but in my experience it is not really possible(but i could be wrong)
Posted By: perly
Date Posted: December 13, 2007 at 8:05 AM
I just remembered an important side note. When you hook into the factory disarm you are going to see your locks unlock once your remote starter starts(this disarms your factory alarm) so basically once you hook up your disarm you are going to need to program your unit to rearm or lock your doors after start(probably have to hook up the rearm wire). I know on mine it takes about 2-5sec for it to relock after start-up.
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: December 13, 2007 at 8:59 AM
As others have already posted you need to hook up the factory alarm disarm output to the factory alarm disarm wire in the vehicle. To expand a little on this the 24921 looks very much like the BOA 265B. If this is the same you will have a light/green black wire H1/2 this wire sends a negative pulse right before engaging the remote start and unlocking. This is your factory alarm disarm output, connect this to the dark blue/light green wire in the kick panel that goes to ground when you unlock the driver's door with a key.
pasthelp wrote:
the remote start book indicates a WHITE/ blue wire that states .< Not reqierd unless trying into an existing keyless entry or alarm system with an auxiliary output.> than my escape wiering shows a pink and white wier for power door lock and unlock do I use these two I dont see a disarm lock wire. or would the disarm wire be the one that activates when I turn the key lock ?
The WHITE/ blue is a wire that if it sees a negative pulse will activate the remote start. In your particular case this connection is not required, insulate it and mount it out of the way. The vehicle's disarm wire is the wire you describe here, it goes to ground when turning the key cylinder in the door to unlock.
perly] wrote:
k well your factory alarm disarm has been mentioned above but as far as your keyless goes when your car is turned on then the factory key fob is dead(it is a factory safety??? thing in many cars) You may be able to make it work but in my experience it is not really possible(but i could be wrong)
Are you sure this is the case with the Escape? I can not recall the Escape specifically but most (if not all) Ford remotes work fine when the vehicle is running under remote start.
perly] wrote:
just remembered an important side note. When you hook into the factory disarm you are going to see your locks unlock once your remote starter starts(this disarms your factory alarm) so basically once you hook up your disarm you are going to need to program your unit to rearm or lock your doors after start(probably have to hook up the rearm wire). I know on mine it takes about 2-5sec for it to relock after start-up.
Again, are you sure this applies to the Ford Escape? I do not recall ever seeing a Ford that unlocks with a factory alarm disarm wire. This normally applies to vehicles like some Honda's that arm and disarm the factory alarm with lock and unlock, or on a system that does not have independent arm/disarm outputs. ------------- Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 13, 2007 at 5:33 PM
i am prety sure it can be done I took my girlfreinds 2008 ford escape to a local place they installed a unit and the keyless entry works fine while the car is running in remote start mode ?
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Posted By: NowYaKnow
Date Posted: December 13, 2007 at 7:06 PM
Ford Escape and Focus OEM keyless entries don't work once remote started, 08's excluded. The blue/green OEM disarm wire needs a double pulse to unlock the doors so it should shut down the alarm the way you want it to.
Mike
Posted By: perly
Date Posted: December 13, 2007 at 7:44 PM
as far as the two questions go - 1) i do not know for 100% if the factory key faub goes dead when the car is started(i cannot remember for sure) but for 2) in my 01 Escape when I send a pulse to the disarm wire it unlocks the doors - the tech sheet says that this is the case when you have a factory alarm in your car(it also says to use the arm and disarm wire as your lock and unlock wires)
ok I just checked and in my 01 Escape the key faub does not work when the car starter is on -100%. - now can you make it work with running a ground out to the keysense..... maybe but I am not sure.
Posted By: pasthelp
Date Posted: December 13, 2007 at 7:58 PM
well I am sure it can be done. But as long as it dosent set the alarm off everytime I remote start I can deal with unlocking the car with a key or just shuting the car off just before getting in.
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