guy came in with a caddy and said he wanted a new alarm and keyless installed on his car, and stated that the last shop was "professional" but he was had nothing but problems with them and has been back several times now........wonder why, i take off the under dash to install a unit and find this cluster fluck

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Hey that looks al dante, just needs some pasta sauce! Belicimo .... that kinda reminds me of some of the crap I see from the last installer my boss had working at our shop.
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The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
I didn't charge him more either after this nasty little beast jumped out at me, I kinda left sorry for the guy. It never amazes me to see what people bring me for fix its, but this is from a well known shop (I wont say the name, cuz i already called the shop and talked to the owner about it) Now I don't feel bad when I charge more for installs in my area, I hook up everything, and take pride in asking my other installers to look at my work and have them say,"where is it?"
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Don't you love the "help" you get from the other shops in town.... THEY are good for YOUR business.

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Remindes me of some of the stuff I used to rip out after an installer lovingly known as "Spaghetti Eddie". His name REALLY was Eddie, too!
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
KarTuneMan wrote:
Don't you love the "help" you get from the other shops in town.... THEY are good for YOUR business.
thats why i have customers that deal with me directly and not with my shop.....i still do all *most* of the work there...but they only want me to do the work even though im in a shop now that has alot of great installers....oh well....more money for me
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