i am far from perfect
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Topic: i am far from perfect
Posted By: frozenuts
Subject: i am far from perfect
Date Posted: October 01, 2008 at 11:44 AM
As the subject states, I am far from perfect. I don't have a mug that says "world's best speller", and my nickname is not "captain grammer", but I try. I also have not been in school since 1992, so I am not sure if they still teach English, reading comprehension, typing, or anything else that might help 95% of the posters here actually get a response. Everyone that is posting here has to be at least 16 (unless the driving age is less in Mozambique or whatever non-United States country you may be in) which means they have probably made it into high school. If they still teach English, that means at least 9 years of learning how to communicate effectively. If English is not the official language of the country that you are posting from, then this rant is not about you, as you are lingusticly superior to me (and about half of Americans). I am not going to single anyone out, not going to use names, but some of the excuses for the complete lack of consideration I have seen here and on other forums are as follows. "I posted my question from my cell phone while driving." wthOMGBBQ!!!!!11!!! As a moto rider, I realized why I almost get taken out on a daily basis after reading that excuse. Put the phone in your pocket before I put it in your... you get the picture. You won't be able to hook up your 15 audiobling capacitors while driving, so I think you can wait to post while driving. "I am not good at typing" Neither am I. Take your time. Focus. No wonder you can't figure out the settings on your (amp, radio, toaster) You probably rushed through the installation, and didn't even open up the manual. You put the toast in the slot and press the lever down. If you smell smoke, you didn't fuse the bread at the battery. "I aM GanGstA sO i Tipe ganGsTa" Nuff said. Please don't shoot me Clarence Goldstein from Beverly Hills. In his defense, "CeeGold" earned his street name by bringing 21 items through the express lane at "Lucky" "what do you care fgt just help me and aswer teh question dat i asked you why do you hav e to always judgeme" If we can't read your post, we can"t help you. There. I feel better. Back to the car audio forum to see how right I am, and the count down to this post getting deleted / me getting banned has begun... ------------- all bad things come in moderation. do not shop at fry's. Get your own log in Omar.
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Posted By: megaman
Date Posted: October 01, 2008 at 11:57 AM
banned? I doubt it. You didn't single anyone out, it was just a general comment about posting on the forum. Funny thing is, I always think the same thing, I just haven't put it up on the forum. I can't stand reading....er... TRYING to read a post and think, "what the #$% is this guy talking about?" Next post.
Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: October 01, 2008 at 2:05 PM
You know what else bothers me - people who can't take the time to address or sign Emails. Our society has gotten so informal over the years and its embarrassing. If some guy I don't know sends me an Email and asks me a question I don't even know how to start the reply Email as I don't have a name to put before that comma!
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Posted By: frozenuts
Date Posted: October 01, 2008 at 3:19 PM
I just ran into something like that. I found out about a potential job through a different forum, and he sent me a pm with his contact number and email with his company... no name. I felt kinda silly calling up, getting a machine and leaving a message for "FoolishMortal" and refering to myself as Frozenuts... "Hi this message is for foolish mortal. My name is Max but you might know me better as Frozenuts on BARF...." Not the greatest first impression, but he loved the resume, so with any luck I will be out of this backwards run hellhole in a couple weeks... By backwards run hellhole, I mean frys, not the12volt. Please don't ban me. I usually just address the person based on my first impression if they don't give a name, so something like "Dear unnamed dude with a problem" might be a good one for you to use... or "Evil Unknown"... you know, something formal... ------------- all bad things come in moderation. do not shop at fry's. Get your own log in Omar.
Posted By: chillin420
Date Posted: October 01, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Frozen, Which frys do you work at? i am sup at 44 in oxnard , ca ------------- you can do it....
advanced MECP, lol does it really matter....
patience is a virtue
Posted By: megaman
Date Posted: October 01, 2008 at 6:36 PM
wouldn't that be funny if he said "yeah, I know, you're my sup moron!" lol I was gonna say something else but I figured I'd keep it clean. My ex-sister-in-law (short story) gave me her resume a few years back and wanted me to look it over. I asked if this was her final draft and she says yes. There were so many grammatical errors it was like reading a high-schooler's resume. After giving her my critique she never asked me again, and her e-mails are never cohesive enough to figure out what she's talking about. Scary thing is, she has a degree, with honors. But since I'm still a new member on here, I'm beginning to become exhausted with people who post questions that make no sense. Or, they will post incomplete questions without giving the right details. "I have a 3500 watt amp, is it too big?" no, but the question is too vague.
Posted By: frozenuts
Date Posted: October 02, 2008 at 10:50 AM
I am trying to step down as the sup at 24 in concord. I say trying because I stepped down two weeks ago, handed a written declaration of my desire to be a full time installer (I have been making less than my installers due to the lack of sales staff and the 10% pay cut I got for my two year anniversary.) and they have not acknowledged my request. They will probably fire me after inventory, since that is what they did to our old camera sup last year. Did I mention that they still have not replaced the camera sup? Or the Audio sup that quit 6 months ago? Or the computer DM that quit at least 6 months ago. I am going to be the only installer after today. The AV DM quit due to a heart condition that he did not have when he started the job. The Appliance DM quit for the same reason. Both of their doctors blamed the stress on the new store manager. I won't go into detail on the 4 payroll issues that I have had in two years either. /endrant ------------- all bad things come in moderation. do not shop at fry's. Get your own log in Omar.
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: October 04, 2008 at 6:59 PM
I got a headache......what should I do?
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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: October 04, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Take 2 Qu***udes and call me in the morning.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 06, 2008 at 3:58 AM
Hear hear! I usually loose it with these people, Kar Tune man will deliver some finely tuned sarcasm and either Chris Wallace or I am an Idiot will rationally take them apart. There is a certain gentleman from Trinidad and Tobago (where they have a wonderful traditional education system with discipline and the three R's) who is succint and bright but who lapses into gangsta rap and uses da instead of the, my other peeve are the ones who come up with the latest models asking advice. If it has the same body shell as previous models why on earth can't they take THAT info and test? General peeve against those who ask advice without checking to see if that topic has come up already. Cheers Howard. PS I get "keyboard dyslexia" because I thinking faster than I can type. Simple answer? Proof read before posting.
Posted By: megaman
Date Posted: October 06, 2008 at 8:57 AM
A trick I learned a long time ago when proof reading is read the paragraph backwards. It takes your attention away from what's being said and focuses on the actual word. I've skipped misspelled words all the time, but when I do this little trick, I can pick em' out every time. When reading a passage the mind takes the letters in the word as a whole, and you can clearly put the word together. So, you don't see the mistakes because your mind thinks and reads the word correctly. Reading backwards compensates for this. I have a great little paragraph someone e-mailed to me that every word was misspelled, but you could easily read the paragraph. It was cool and kinda spooky.
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 11, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I agree with the OP completely, and wholeheartedly. I am guilty of actually "retyping" REALLY bad posts, using proper English and grammar, THEN answering the poster. It even makes me giggle inside (a little bit), but it's also really sad that I even have to take such steps.
Megaman, I love that suggestion. I'm going to start doing that even here. When I get tired or on a rant (the tired seems to be happening far more lately) I will hit the post button without ever ever reading what I have said, then I'll see a BIG ol' mistake, then I have to go in and edit, hoping all along that somebody doesn't see the error or read the post with the mis -type or -spelling or -information. My vanity really hates when somebody catches my errors. Thinking about it, though, I don't have anything to really worry about, because nobody today would ever catch the errors! (That's not true here, I'm just using it as a generalization for all forum posting in general)
It is really sad that we have become such a society of abbreviators and 133t-ers. It's difficult today to actually speak correctly as well, let alone posting on an internet forum. I try to type a message the same way I would speak it, and I get razzings all the time, click here for my first posts on the12volt. (Stevdart thought he got away with it, but I DID catch the jab, AND I remember!  ) I get mocked all the time for my speaking habits. So many people think I sound snobby, or think I am "speaking down to them", but I am not doing either of those things, it's just the way I speak. English can be a wonderful and beautiful language, and I like to use it as such.
I blame the cellular phone companies. ...only allowing 160 characters in a text... WTH is up wit dat? ------------- It all reminds me of something that Moličre once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 7:09 PM
howie ll wrote:
Hear hear! I usually loose it with these people, Kar Tune man will deliver some finely tuned sarcasm and either Chris Wallace or I am an Idiot will rationally take them apart. There is a certain gentleman from Trinidad and Tobago (where they have a wonderful traditional education system with discipline and the three R's) who is succint and bright but who lapses into gangsta rap and uses da instead of the, my other peeve are the ones who come up with the latest models asking advice. If it has the same body shell as previous models why on earth can't they take THAT info and test? General peeve against those who ask advice without checking to see if that topic has come up already. Cheers Howard. PS I get "keyboard dyslexia" because I thinking faster than I can type. Simple answer? Proof read before posting.
ok howie, i get ya, but the only reason i use da insted of the is because it's the starting of my first name, Darren, and jus for the extra bit of info, i'm very versed in the english language. jus so u know, cheers howard ------------- COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 26, 2008 at 4:41 AM
Darren your posts are well informed, and succinct and you reminded me of some good friends from the Windies with, university education one of whom is a barrister who amongst "the blood" will lapse into the argot, otherwise he sounds like a 1950's BBC news reader.I supose it was also a subconscious dig against my daughter and grandchildren, do something nice and it's "cool" ???? Howard. I only use DEI for R/S as it's all we've got in Europe.
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: November 01, 2008 at 1:37 AM
OK.... I use my email program to check my spellin. Specially on tuff words like acessory.
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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: November 01, 2008 at 10:44 PM
It's "assessorry". Jeesh! And I dident even nead a spell checker.
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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM
thank you howie, 
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 22, 2009 at 1:05 PM
It's a peasure t&t and we'll still beat you at cricket.....OK I was joking.
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: January 22, 2009 at 7:42 PM
i once aspired to play for the west indies, but as of recent the team has lost the spirit that is cricket, it's a game that can only be played if you have the passion for it, or so i believe, i love the sport, but the team has let the true west indian fans down in recent years, the aussies are examples of a team with passion, there team plays as a unit, and they have talent laden members that make them the world's finest team, undoubtedly, i'll stop there howie, sorry i get caught up when it comes to cricket, you like the sport howie?.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 23, 2009 at 3:04 AM
I've followed Tottenham Hotspur all my life, so the last 2/3 years have rather dulled my enthusiasm for sports! to me (and this might be blasphemy to you and half of my family) but I think baseball was placed on God's earth so that Cricket wouldn't be the most boring! As for American football forget it! Yes I always liked Dwight Yorke.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 24, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Ref what we've discussed, there's a post today, need MG.F wiring, it's the way he asked the question which made me turn on the sarcasm/ridicule, can't these people even look and check for themselves? It's like stop everyone, you're duty bound to lead me through this, will someone please agree/disagree with me? Look people no spelling errors or typos, I engaged brain and checked for once.
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 24, 2009 at 3:59 PM
ha, yea i agree. i saw that post as well. at least your able to give an exact answer to an exact question Howie. Any time i ask a question i get every flippin answer EXCEPT the answer to the question i asked.  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~110908
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 4:13 AM
How did we ever achieve our results back before instant knowledge bases, why have I got loads of Cliff/Viper/West coast T shirts? It's for finding things out! I went to the coast to do this job lovely people lovely young German Shepherd, played with him for hours, found on-site that the remote held the transponder chip not the key found all the connections, I've pointed him in the right direction, let's see how good he is. I think the way he asked the questions got up my nose!! Apart from the fact that any amateur* in the Greater London area is taking the food from my mouth. *If he was a pro, he would have contacted DEI or had access to adatabase, he's just being lazy. New name for these people, LAMS (lazy amateurs)
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 4:20 AM
CK, that one you responded to, "where to mount the anti grind relay" that's a LAMS question if ever I saw one......
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 10:13 AM
oh yes. but think about it, theres even worse........."what remote start should I get?"..........."what bypass do I need"........."am I gonna need any diodes, relays, extra parts?" "whats better, tach? or voltage monitoring?" all LAMS stuff. funny thing is........aren't those the most common questions we see on here Howie? How about a "most commonly asked question" thread? anybody want to start one?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Yes who's got the courage, "stupid moronic questions for which you should enter the search button first or even engage brain." Bit long winded but that's the working title then there are those who open up "So I or Well I" So f******g what so have we many many times. T&T... Darren you've got a LAMS with that Windstar that's why Lone Ranger was so short with him, it's a straight sympton of no tach connection.
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM
that would be a good title for it. the worst LAMS questions are the ones like "How do I install my remote start?" something to which there is no straight answer to in the first place, and then make it impossible to get any type of answer by just stating it like that with no mention of what type of vehicle or remote start. and then reply back to the post with "Anybody?" those should just be deleted.
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM
here's a LAMS, guy posted saying he just installed his starter, but it won't remote start, and he notices he gas light is on, replied telling him to put some gas and try again, he never posted back, hmmmm, wonder what the outcome was, lol ------------- COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
PSALMS 37:5
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Wow...I just noticed this post today. I really need to read something other than just what shows up on the RSS feed for Car Security and Convenience. Thanks Howie for the shoutout in an earlier post.
As far as the original post, a few thoughts:
1. Firefox is free, light-years beyond Internet Explorer in terms of features and ease of use, and doesn't have the problems Netscape did in the past resulting from IE's integration with the Windows operating system(at least with XP and Vista).
Among the great features of Firefox 3 is a built-in active spell check for forum posts, which has caught many an error on my part. It tends to mark technical words as erroneous, but those are easy enough to ignore.
2. It cannot be stated enough that this is a forum, NOT a chatroom. You are not going to get an instant response, but there is basically no limit to how much typing you can do in a post. Therefore, you need to put as much information as possible in your original post, and organize it so that others can read it easily. I know I almost never bother responding to questions which are disorganized and vague, and I'm sure the other experienced installers do the same. We don't have that much time to waste.
3. Good spelling and proper use of language are not traits limited to academic and business elites(maybe 10 people on this site could remotely come close to that category, yet somehow good language abounds). They have a purpose which should be blindingly obvious, namely, to enable people to communicate ideas more easily.
If you type and speak in a manner that only your closest friends and family can understand, you won't communicate with everyone else on this site.
If you don't communicate, you'll have many fewer people thinking about how to solve your problem, which obviously drastically reduces your chance of getting a solution. So which is more important - solving your problem or convincing your friends you're not "elite"?
4. howie ii wrote:
There is a certain gentleman from Trinidad and Tobago (where they have a wonderful traditional education system with discipline and the three R's) who is succint and bright but who lapses into gangsta rap and uses da instead of the...
Spot on...did you notice the quote on my Facebook page about the matter of education?
I think education is a huge problem, in America and probably in the UK. When our public schools can consistently graduate students who have higher self esteem than anyone else in the developed world and lower substantiated results, what does that say? It says to me that the schools are just lying to the students year after year. And that people can think highly of themselves despite their lack of ability to do anything useful.
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Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: January 25, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Forgot to mention - for once I agree Howie's national chauvinism, specifically on the matter of baseball. But then again I live in the home of the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Also, ironically enough, my screen name is "gangsta" in origin. I think I've come a long way in 6 years.
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