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Topic: dei explain

Posted By: racing_bidule
Subject: dei explain
Date Posted: September 14, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Read carefully the last sentence in each document found on YOUR servers and please explain?

https://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6610&productid=96&firmwareid=1597

https://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6611&productid=96&firmwareid=1597

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If you fail on your first attempt, at least destroy all evidence you tried!



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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: September 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM
LOL, That's pretty funny. Never seen that before. Is that even legal without consent from ADS ?

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: racing_bidule
Date Posted: September 14, 2010 at 9:42 PM

I don't think so but who am I to judge this...

I don't know how legal it is but it certainly lacks of morale.

Regards!



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If you fail on your first attempt, at least destroy all evidence you tried!




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 16, 2010 at 7:50 AM
Jeff, let's face it, they get their initial info from Mitchells anyway.
I had the (UK) tech people ask me to contact another alarm manufacturer to find out why the other product worked on a certain French make whereas theirs had to go back to the car dealer for reprogramming.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: September 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM
Ridiculous. If your as big a company as DEI is, why would you produce a product that tells you to go to another manufacturer's site ? IMO your shooting yourself in the foot.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: ben d.
Date Posted: September 18, 2010 at 9:56 PM
doesn't surprise me if I had a dollar for every remote, brain or really anything going wrong with the new DEI products since they swapped to the responder LE and LC3 remotes...  I love DEI products but it's come down to the point where I dread finishing a remote start because i'd say 1/10 brains are dead out of the box...

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2008 Dodge Ram 1500
MECP Certified Advanced Installer CEA 191700




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 19, 2010 at 3:57 AM
I've even had internal immobiliser relay failures on Clifford G5 products for the UK market (same basis as the AG5.1) never happened before.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ben d.
Date Posted: September 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM

hell just yesterday had a viper 5701 come back in that was done by my supervisor who has 11 years experience and is MECP Master (i only say this so that some DEI tool fanboy doesn't say it must have been install). 

Issue, 2 way remote not sending command or confirming, 1 way working as supposed to.

First attempt was to try and reprogram the remote.. no dice,  second attempt was to swap remotes... no good,

Put in a new antenna (just plugged in to see) still nothing...

Swapped another brain in and programmed and I'll be damn still nothing...  So I decided after checking everything to attempt a second new brain.. and tada freakin works.

Two bum brains out of the box refreaking diculous..



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2008 Dodge Ram 1500
MECP Certified Advanced Installer CEA 191700




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 2:09 AM
They never released the 59xx series here, they claimed it was a problem with the 900mhz frequency, that's a load of rubbish, we have cordless phones, industrial remotes etc. all operating thereabouts, it was the QUALITY problems, they were too scared of comebacks.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: ben d.
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Yea dude we deal with it all the time.. but I mean what am I to do tell people I can't install their remote start because the most recognized company in convenience/security is epic failing??  escpecially when it's one of the most profitable jobs we do..

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2008 Dodge Ram 1500
MECP Certified Advanced Installer CEA 191700




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Yes i have to agree here. Although i love dei, their products are failing miserably now and often as well, i had such hopes for their new responder generation, but they dashed all, sad to say but it's true.




Posted By: xxunknownxx
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Ugh I hated the Responder series. I really dont like the new flex relay thing.




Posted By: ben d.
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Yea man it's that bad I turned down employee accomodation pricing of let's say less than 100 bucks for a 5901 lol.

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2008 Dodge Ram 1500
MECP Certified Advanced Installer CEA 191700




Posted By: millco
Date Posted: September 23, 2010 at 6:57 AM

Great!  I just joined and was starting to look for a nice remote start / alarm. . . . . .

How long has this been going on?  Should I buy an older, used one?

Thanks for any advice you can give me!





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 23, 2010 at 7:54 AM
That last post; used alarm? Are you for real?
If you want a serious reply please post a request for advice in the Car Security and Convenience section.
These comments are not directed at all products, no pun intended.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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