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Topic: howie ll = not active

Posted By: kreg357
Subject: howie ll = not active
Date Posted: January 02, 2013 at 6:19 AM

   Can't speak for anyone else, but I sure miss Howie II's vast experience, accurate answers and satirical humor.   posted_image



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Posted By: mustyk@att.net
Date Posted: January 02, 2013 at 7:45 AM
Where is he?

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Posted By: shortcircuit161
Date Posted: January 02, 2013 at 9:10 AM
I've been wondering the same thing lately.

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Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: January 02, 2013 at 10:18 AM
I miss him as well. In fact, I find myself not spending as much time on here because it just isn't the same without him....

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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: January 02, 2013 at 3:04 PM
Ditto! He is platinum.
Surely not an overreaction to his wit I hope.




Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 02, 2013 at 5:14 PM
Has been shut out?   That would be a shame and a loss.   He always made me laugh.

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Posted By: mustyk@att.net
Date Posted: January 02, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Bloody well right, chap!

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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 03, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Howie is alive and ok. Says he got S*** canned for a post. No sense of humor says he.

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Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: January 03, 2013 at 1:28 PM
kreg357 wrote:

   Can't speak for anyone else, but I sure miss Howie II's vast experience, accurate answers and satirical humor.   posted_image


Same here.

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Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: January 03, 2013 at 2:18 PM
the12volt wrote:

kreg357 wrote:

   Can't speak for anyone else, but I sure miss Howie II's vast experience, accurate answers and satirical humor.   posted_image


Same here.


Say it ain't so...

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Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: January 03, 2013 at 6:53 PM
the12volt wrote:

kreg357 wrote:

   Can't speak for anyone else, but I sure miss Howie II's vast experience, accurate answers and satirical humor.   posted_image


Same here.


So we all want to know, will he be back????? We miss Howie - without him the rookies will take over!

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Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: January 04, 2013 at 8:41 AM
Kevin, I certainly hope so.

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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: January 04, 2013 at 5:46 PM
I noticed he is no longer Platinum, but silver...
wth?
I am Gold with a mere 3k posts. Howie II has more than treble that. Not that IMO numbers count - it's the quality of the reply, and Howie leaves me for dead on that score. (IE - specific detail & knowledge, and concise!) And his humor is way superior (bonus!).

I did notice he became merely Gold (posted_image) sometime ago for reasons I don't understand. I can only assume he was told why. (I expect such feedback and interaction from "amateur" forums. As to professional forums, I'd expect matching professional conduct. FYI - to demote a worker here without reason is illegal.)
But now Howie II is a paltry Silver! posted_image posted_image


I did see a recent thread where his reply was apparently deleted. I heard it might have been because of misunderstood humor. If so, I hope it was a result of a complaint though that too should have been handled interactively. [FYI - it is illegal here to take offense on behalf of someone else {unless an elected representative}. That was done to stop exponentially rising social trouble - eg, religious groups offended by Christmas [indeed! LOL] and similar assumptions or allegations.]


I had a "3 points and I'm out" from groups and forums.
Maybe Howard has something similar?

If the trouble is Howard's sometimes apt albeit unruly curt replies, maybe it is time for an additional rating that is separate to member's technical rating?
I know elsewhere people have a "Platinum" rating but with an "approach with a stick" adjunct.




Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: January 05, 2013 at 7:14 AM
oldspark wrote:


If the trouble is Howard's sometimes apt albeit unruly curt replies, maybe it is time for an additional rating that is separate to member's technical rating?
I know elsewhere people have a "Platinum" rating but with an "approach with a stick" adjunct.


This made me laugh. In Howie's case you would need three separate ratings - technical knowledge, interaction with sensible people, and interaction with people who think they already know everything while in reality they are rookies with no knowledge at all!



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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: January 05, 2013 at 5:10 PM
Ha! I think I'd need that rating too.

On the12volt I still seem to turn my sarcastic thoughts into diplomacy (eg, calling it a common or understandable mistake, or transferring blame to those that promote diode isolators for dual batteries etc).
But there have been MANY times when I have thought "Holy cow Howard, tell the dude she/he is an fwit!".
Howard's tolerance and persistence IMO far eclipses any occasional (and totally understandable!) lapses he has.
I know I regard him as superhuman, but for Pete's sake, he is only human.

Actually I regard Howard's comments as being a safety valve. They probably often express our thoughts.
In my case, they definitely prevent me launching into sarcastic tirades.
It's probably for that reason that I now have an increased interest in this situation. Similar situations elsewhere have had a profound effect on my status with them.

This situation touched things I have not yet had to consider here. Certainly I expect Howard to have a right of reply - EVERYONE has that whether it be a murderer's right to a Defence, or a retailer/manufacturer etc like those hereon "making good" product defects etc) - even if it's only to explain, or correct a misunderstanding, or apologise etc.
And I still feel that admin & mods should communicate (to the writer) why or what is wrong etc (except perhaps if it's obvious).

I have even started to reconsider why certain "attacks" on me or (IMO) other ridiculous statements (eg, using VA to measure amplifier performance, or voltage dividers for high-current applications) weren't actioned.
But luckily I am a mere contributor. I have no career with car installs etc. LOL - I think I was Silver before I even knew this site had a rating system!




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: January 15, 2013 at 8:09 PM
Howard's really missed, i hope the mods bring him back soon. :(




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: January 16, 2013 at 5:02 AM

      A BIG Ditto to the T&T Tech post!   posted_image



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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 16, 2013 at 6:06 AM
A BIG UNDERLINED ITALICIZED DITTO




Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: January 16, 2013 at 9:55 AM
i am an idiot wrote:

A BIG UNDERLINED ITALICIZED DITTO


Saw this warning on another forum... Thought of Howie...

"WARNING"
The views and opinions of this forum user might not be suitable for others, this user may appear to be heavily over-medicated, under medicated, intoxicated, listening to the voices in his head or just plain being an ass, so some viewers may be offended!~!!!

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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM
I reckon Howard is gone.
I think his last post was around new year though I only found a post circa 22Dec12. (the12volt's records/stats are flawed - a thread update modifies the post date of its contributors. Even google didn't help - except maybe searching its caches.)

To me that indicates he is gone. He is not on holiday - IMO something has upset him. I suspect it's for reasons that I outlined earlier.

However I note that admin seem to empathise with other replies hereon; maybe even concur with my views!
That encourages me since I think it will require communication by admin to bring Howard back.
An alternative may be discussion with or amongst his peers, eg, if others hereon were to give consideration to his recent demotion and whatever caused it, and how to avoid similar in the future.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Gentlemen, I appear to be re-admitted to this club.
Now to screw those idiots posting garbage.
Oops, be gentle, call a spade a digging implement.

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Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 8:03 AM
Welcome back!

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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 8:14 AM
Wonderful!!!

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 8:17 AM
Thank you for your support, Mr. 12volt, I STILL refuse to watch Swamp People though.
And thank you Tommy. Nice to be back, must cut the cynicism and sarcasm though.

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Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 8:19 AM
Howie, maybe all you need is a good publicist.posted_image

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Welcome back, Howard!!  posted_image

Just remember to avoid posting here within 24 hours of any Tottenham Hotspur loss.  Call it a "cooling off period".   posted_image



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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Man o man, you had me worried!

Good to have you back.




Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Yay!!!

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Posted By: shortcircuit161
Date Posted: January 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Good to have you back!!!!! posted_image

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Alarms, Remote Start, Audio/Video, Tint and more!
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 20, 2013 at 6:59 AM
OK were at home to Man United the top of the tree, 11:00am, East Coast time. We beat them at their ground 3 months ago so they have a grudge. Should be a cracker but if we lose expect some newbies to get reamed.
Except we have about 12" of snow and it's still coming down and I can't be bothered to get dressed and go out.
Thank you to my PR people you know who you are.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 03, 2013 at 7:47 PM

     Think it happened again.    posted_image    Poor Howard.

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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: August 03, 2013 at 8:42 PM
I'm not surprised after that Tundra thread. Howard may have shown his usual sarcasm but IMO that was understandable in that case; after all, most OPs hereon want a cheap and quick and reliable solution, not a delayed "paid" solution of questionable reliability.

And from the boombox battery thread, maybe he sees a biased response from admin. (Why don't I get pulled up? Tho having said that, I was close to leaving after the deletion of some of my replies, but upon realising the small mindedness of the responsible litol I decided to stay.)    


I was close to being the first reply in that Tundra thread but glad I wasn't - I misunderstood the requirement and the suitability of Howard's diagram.
But Howard got it right. (Maybe others don't see the information that is missing from later responses?)
And for Howard to suffer a lack of support from others - especially from someone that stated "Rather than powering a coil, I prefer to prevent electrons from flowing in more than one direction. One is inherently more reliable, efficient, and more cost effective.... (Yes, the relay is more reliable and the diode is cheaper. But I doubt that's what that person meant...)


PS - I was originally going to reply with (a mere) "it's not Poor Howard" - it's poor us!





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 04, 2013 at 5:02 AM
Agree completely!
"PS - I was originally going to reply with (a mere) "it's not Poor Howard" - it's poor us!"

Yes, the forum has lost a very valuable resource.

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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: August 23, 2013 at 10:41 AM
I hate non value-adds to idle threads, but....

GEEZ I MISS HOWARD!!





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