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Topic: What if client claim alarm never went off?

Posted By: chassis
Subject: What if client claim alarm never went off?
Date Posted: July 15, 2015 at 6:32 AM

Hi All!

I'm a one man vehicle security installer.I have a question to ask that's been on my mind every now and then as I work with different clients everyday.Some have very good personality and some have a very bad personality. What if a client comes back to me one day or call me to say that they broke into his/her car, took Valuables and the alarm never sounded.I've always wondered what I would say if something like this ever happens.I am a very neat installer,and very confident on all my installs,test after installation,and when the client comes back I test each and every trigger to make sure client see that everything works properly.all my installations comes with 2year guarantee and obviously theres no guarantee on theft.so what is my answer as I wouldn't even know if the client ever armed the system in the 1st place. Should I add some text on the receict (no guarantee on theft) or will that not sound good.I already have vehicle inpspection sheets for those clients who like to blame the installer.any advice would be much appreciated.

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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: July 15, 2015 at 2:42 PM
Talk to your customers about the passive arming feature. This will automatically arm the vehicle if the owner forgets to set alarm. I would immediately test all triggers on the alarm. If you cant find any faults in the system, then the customer most likely forgot to set the alarm. Also they may have left a door ajar and thus obstructing the alarm operation.

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Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: July 15, 2015 at 3:18 PM
Hi buddy! A very simple and powerfull answer,thanks a lot.I think I should also tell them to Regularly test the cars triggers every now and then and to read manuals to understand the system.Some customers can get very relaxed,most of them don't even read manuals they just know about pressing the remote.Anyway,i'm just preparing myself for the worst in the trade.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 12:43 PM
Sorry for late reply, I never do passive arm it drives people mad and NEVER EVER passive arm and lock.
Just fully demonstrate the system before it leaves you to show everything working.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 12:52 PM
Hi Howie! Yes the passive arm + lock can cause trouble (lock keys in car etc.I always test before the the car leaves to cover my back,I also ask them to test each trigger every month or so.The product I'm fitting is quite reliable,it never disappointed me unless the car start to leak in.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM
What make?


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:09 PM
Its not for a specific car,was just a "what if question"

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:11 PM
No silly child, I meant what make alarm?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM
Lol appologies! Its Autowatch Howie,best product in SA,but sure its poor in your eyes and overseas asyou guys are dealing with some high quality stuff that side.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:17 PM
Autowatch is actually extremely good, their instructions are a mess!

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:19 PM
Is there a supplier in the UK?

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:21 PM
Yes but car alarms are a dead number here so much is OEM in this market.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:26 PM
"Dead number" you mean slow,and why?

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 1:53 PM
Heads up display, built in 4G linking and Bluetooth, factory alarms, factory remote start, etc. etc. High end audio. Aftermarket just about finished in Europe.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM
Wow!soon the aftermarket guys will be out of business.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 2:15 PM
Virtually died out in the UK, the UK market gets the most loaded cars in the world.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 2:23 PM
Which means they will have to go back to the dealer if something goes wrong with their device,where they will spend a lot of cash. What kind of installations kept you busy on your last days before you retired?

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM
Trackers and some Viper alarm /RS but it's more and more difficult, data systems on European cars different to US, problems all the time with software.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: September 10, 2015 at 11:40 PM
Sounds like a headache!

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.





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