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Can you make pushbuttons for blinkers?

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Topic: Can you make pushbuttons for blinkers?

Posted By: cpgoose
Subject: Can you make pushbuttons for blinkers?
Date Posted: October 07, 2002 at 10:51 AM

Ok, another of my wacky ideas, and you'll think I'm crazy....but I was just curious.  I would like to add 2 buttons to the gear shifter that would mimick using the directional.  (I have an automatic Integra).  In other words, just 2 buttons (left and right) that would (when you hold them in) make the turn signals blink as if you pushed up or down on the directional arm.

Reasoning:  I think this would be cool because I normally drive with my hand on the gear-shift (even though I have an AT), and I think this would be easy for those quick lane changes.  Can I just hook up a button (like a valet button), that would make the blinkers blink while I'm holding in the button?

THANKS!!!!!




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Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: October 07, 2002 at 11:44 AM
https://www.varad.com/racerboy.htm

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
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Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 07, 2002 at 11:50 AM

Wow mamma....so I'm not really that crazy after all.  posted_image
So I guess with 2 buttons, a relay, and possibly a flasher (not sure if I'd need this), I could accomplish this?





Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: October 07, 2002 at 1:54 PM
opps, just saw you have an automatic. But yes if you can get buttons on the shifter then with a flasher, u can do it. If the switches are low  current handling the use some relays.

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 07, 2002 at 2:04 PM

What kind of switch would I need that I wouldn't need a relay?  In other words, what buttons could I buy to prevent me from having to use relays?

Do you know how to wire this?  Is this correct?

  • BUTTON:       Side 1----> ground,           Side 2------> X on flasher
  • FLASHER:     X----->Side 2 of button & to blinker wire?,     L------->ground

Just not sure how you would incorporate it to the flasher wire.  Are there two flasher wires?....one for left and one for right? posted_image





Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: October 07, 2002 at 5:40 PM
You do need two relays. I don't know if the Honda used the same hazard switch but if they do then use a relay to connect pin #1 of the hazard switch to pin#2 for left blinker or pin#3 for right blinker. This information is off a 1999 3.2TL and 2001-2003 3.2CL

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: SnomanF150
Date Posted: October 07, 2002 at 7:51 PM
wouldn't an easier way to do this be to find the left and right turn signal in the steering colume from the switch.. they are usaully a ground output and then just tap into that and any 3amp momentary switch would work..

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Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: October 08, 2002 at 12:41 AM

The switch would need to handle the current. Its safer with relays, if the wires from the switch get shorted then the lights would just flash. If you use the switch method, when the wires get shorted then the stock fuse will blow.

Remember the factory turn signal switch just completes the path for the left or right signal bulbs to the flasher. When the flasher senses the bulbs (ground potential from bulbs since the other side of bulb is grounded) it starts to flash and sends +12 volts back to the bulbs. So the signal the relay receives from the bulbs may be negative on the wire, but when the flasher energizes, it sends a positive signal back to the bulbs.

Ok, 1992 Honda Accord uses the same switch setup as the Acuras I mentioned. The switch may physically be different?,  but the pin#'s are the same.



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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 08, 2002 at 7:36 AM

Thanks for all of the replies.  It would have been cool not to have to use the relays (since I'm using so many already).  Would you be able to show how they get hooked up?   I posted the page from the Helm's manual for my '92 Integra, so hopefully this will help.  I"m just not sure how to connect pin#1 and pin #2 OR pin#1 and pin#3....and I"m not sure where the flasher comes into play?  Or, do I not need a flasher?

https://www.angelfire.com/nj4/cpgoose/hazard.html





Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: October 08, 2002 at 11:15 AM

This should clear things up. If you easy access to the hazard switch then use relays to connect pin#1 to #2 for left or #3 for right. If getting the wires (colors might be or are different) from steering wheel column, then connect pin# 13 to #12 for left or #14 for right. Your switch on the shifter would just need to energize the relays which will complete the circuit between the flasher relay and light bulbs.

posted_image



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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 09, 2002 at 7:01 AM

Hey go2pac,

Do you have a picture (diagram) in your post?  I saw an error icon, and then I didn't see it....either way, it's not coming up.  That would be cool if it's a diagram!  :-)

THANKS!





Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: October 09, 2002 at 9:31 AM
its a diagram of the hazard and turn signal. It must be your browser because I can get it at home and work with IE 6.0

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: October 09, 2002 at 9:49 AM
Hey....for some reason I can't access your go2pac siteposted_image....either in IE or Netscape.  Could you possibly email me that diagram?  posted_image  (Just click my name).  THANKS!




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: November 01, 2002 at 11:44 AM

Hey, can anyone tell me if the diagram I drew could be the way to do this?

Again, can this be accomplished without relays?

https://www.angelfire.com/nj4/cpgoose/pushbuttons.html

Thanks!





Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: November 01, 2002 at 12:06 PM

All of that is correct except that you just need to wire pin 86 of both relays directly to +12volts fused. The vehicle flasher will do the blinking.



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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: November 01, 2002 at 12:15 PM
Ahhh, so you're saying I don't need another flasher?  I was just going by what you said in the beginning post about needing one.  Wow, I'm surprised I was right posted_image  Wahoo!  There's no other way to do this, though, right?  Like, without the relays?




Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: November 01, 2002 at 12:22 PM
I mentioned flasher but that was before i looked at the wiring diagram and notice you can use the factory flasher with two relays. The safest way is to wire like you have it, minus the flasher. If some how the wires get shorted from the buttons, the worse will happen is that the lights will continuously flash.

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: November 01, 2002 at 12:25 PM

What do you think for the buttons....can I use any type of pushbutton?

I saw some really small ones in RadioShack, but wasn't sure if they had to be a certain size or rating or something.

Thanks for your help go2pac!





Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: November 01, 2002 at 12:49 PM
Any push button will work as long as it can handle about 150ma (thats typical for a relay) which i'm pretty sure all buttons at radio shack can handle.

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 12:39 PM

hey go2pac....I never got around to doing this :(....but now I have 2 extra relays, so I might give it a shot again.

Could you please visit this site again?..... https://www.angelfire.com/nj4/cpgoose/pushbuttons.html

The third picture is the diagram for my hazard wiring.  For the "hazard warning switch", I see 8 terminals (A - H) instead of the "Pins 1, 2, and 3" like you had mentioned.  I'm assuming the wiring will be very similar to what you posted since you posted for another Acura.  Would you be able to tell me which terminals I need (of A through H) for Pins 1, 2, and 3?  I'm wondering if A, B, C, D.....is really 1, 2, 3, 4....respecitvely?

Thanks!





Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 1:36 PM
that looks correct.

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 1:44 PM

wow, that was quickposted_image

by that, you mean I can exchange pins 1, 2, and 3 for A, B, and C in the diagram?





Posted By: themagicone
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 2:02 PM
How could i do this on a auto 2001 Saturn?




Posted By: go2pac
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 2:04 PM
I'm not sure, but you could use a 5 amp fuse and short it across A to B or A to C and see if left and right lights flash.

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Karl

Pacific Accessory Corporation
Mobile Audio Interfacing Equipment
Connecting You to Your Music Since 1976





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