new or old?
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Topic: new or old?
Posted By: gcorrea
Subject: new or old?
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 9:21 PM
just wondering what everyone thought about this subject. when working on a security system or audio would you rather work on a pre 1996 or a newer car, and why.
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gcorrea
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 9:48 PM
Personally for me it doesn't matter if the vehicle's 5 years old or 5 days old as long as it's never been hacked into by another installer. Most newer systems have alot of stuff that you have to bypass or integrate into, but that's part of the industry and you get used to it. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Hymer
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 9:59 PM
Old definitly... Not as much byapssing and such... definitly easyer to sell... and no databus gremlins... But the new stuff seems to be getting easier all he time.... Sometimes the old stuff really suck to dismantel.. and the smell.... Most people are real pigs... heh
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Posted By: gcorrea
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 11:11 PM
foreign or domestic, car or truck? ------------- gcorrea
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 11:17 PM
Welcome back Jeff. Also doesn't matter to me as to how old the car is, unless it is german or a miata( the dash disingrates when you touch the ones that are dry rotted).
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Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: January 17, 2005 at 8:39 AM
i dont care how old, jsut that there are no visible diseases (what u cant see cant hurt u) and it hasnt been aborted by some fly by night whos only tools are duct tape and a buck knife. but for some reason i hate working on buicks
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:17 AM
gcorrea wrote:
foreign or domestic, car or truck?
Not really picky when it comes to these options. Some vehicles have the wires located in better spots than trucks under the dash . Take for instance the new 2004/2005 Civic's have a plethora of room under the dash in comparison to a 1997-2002 Ford F150 and the wires are alot easier to access knowing that they pass right in front of you by the steering column. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:19 AM
auex]W wrote:
lcome back Jeff. Also doesn't matter to me as to how old the car is, unless it is german or a miata( the dash disingrates when you touch the ones that are dry rotted).
Hey auex, glad to be here on the 12volt , but not glad to have left the 80+ F weather of Mexico. Came back last night to -40 F and windchills of -52 F  ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 17, 2005 at 4:20 PM
Hey it was 80 here yesterday, AZ. What are those - things infront of the numbers?
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Certified Security Specialist
Always check info with a digital multimeter.
I promise to be good.
Tell Darwin I sent you.
I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.
Posted By: mobilevt
Date Posted: January 24, 2005 at 6:34 PM
Auex, that's MINUS for below zero. What he's talking about is like artic weather at the poles!!! Fortunately, I'm wearing shorts here in So. Calif. Sean ------------- Emergency Vehicle Technician
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Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: January 25, 2005 at 5:23 PM
like Jeff said age is no matter as long as a BS installer did not lay his hands on there before.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 25, 2005 at 6:01 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me Sean.
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Certified Security Specialist
Always check info with a digital multimeter.
I promise to be good.
Tell Darwin I sent you.
I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.
Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: January 25, 2005 at 10:17 PM
Jeff, where do you live that its that friggin cold??!! I live in Buffalo, NY and its been around 0 to 10 around here lately. Mu car doesnt like to start when its zero, I cant even imagine 40 below!!
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 25, 2005 at 10:42 PM
pimpincavy wrote:
Jeff, where do you live that its that friggin cold??!! I live in Buffalo, NY and its been around 0 to 10 around here lately. Mu car doesnt like to start when its zero, I cant even imagine 40 below!!
Manitoba Canada.. Check this out https://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/cities/can/pages/CAMB0133.htm Go to HISTORICAL DATA and check out Jan 5, 2005. It was - 38.6 that day in Morden and that doesn't even include the windchill !! Customer's ask me why they have troubles starting their car's with the remote start's in this weather ?? I don't even bother ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: January 26, 2005 at 7:44 PM
Dude we just got done a strech in Regina here that was -56 with the windchill. The question of the day was "How come my command start didnt work" I would ask it the car was plugged in they said "No, thats why I got a command start" I reply "did you use the overnight timer" That is generall followed by a long silence or them trying to tell me that they dont have one. Then I say read your manual and hang up. Repeat as nessasary
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Posted By: Chad7n7
Date Posted: March 04, 2005 at 2:41 PM
I agree with everyone else, just the older ones seem to be a little dirtier. I also appreciate when the owner has taken time to clean their vehicles out before bringing them to the shop versus bringing their vehicle to the shop with the trunk full of clothes and back seat piled up with clothes and homework and whatever else, wanting to have a couple amps installed and subwoofers and enclosure in the trunk, oh the fun of cleaning out someone else's car!! :( -------------
Posted By: mladams
Date Posted: March 28, 2005 at 12:46 PM
I don't do installs proffessionally but I do alot of this stuff for other people as well as myself. I can say that I agree that when someone else has worked on the vehicle before it makes it more difficult. I don't mind newer cars, there are just more things to bypass and work on but that, to me, is part of the fun of the job. Domestic VS. Import doesn't make a big difference to me. My moms toyota is very simple, it has an alarm system on it but putting a remote start on it was actually pretty simple. I own a chevy and I found that that is pretty simple to work on as well. So, new or old, import or domestic, they're all fun to me.
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Matt Adams
Electrical Engineer Major
York College of PA
Chevy Cavy Rally Sport
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