What is this?
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Topic: What is this?
Posted By: auex
Subject: What is this?
Date Posted: July 24, 2005 at 12:56 AM
Background: girlfriend went to work car ran fine, came out for lunch and car wouldn't fire, took head off and this is what I found. Vehicle is a 95 civic with a d16z6. This is on other forums as well but have no answer yet.
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Posted By: zezebiah
Date Posted: July 24, 2005 at 4:55 AM
Looks like an alien spaceship of some kind to me... I think we'll need a little more explaination before making any assumptions. There arent a whole lot of mechanics on the board if thats what you're looking for, but feel free to ask away.
A few things that would be helpful... Car year, model, make, engine size/type as well. My best bet would be to find a Forum specific to that car, there are those forums everywhere. Also you probably know more than 95% of the people here if you can take the head of on your own.
Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: July 24, 2005 at 6:45 AM
My hands look like that too.. take a better picture of the object...closeup and all sides if you can. Is it solid, hollow, round, squared off?... It's stuck in an intake valve.. no real surprise there. does it look like an engine fastener? Jim
Posted By: nowlater123
Date Posted: July 24, 2005 at 3:46 PM
Cant really tell what it is by the picture, but it could be any part that comes after the filter element. Check the valvetrain and see if any thing looks out of place. Make sure all of the parts are identical. If it isn't something that sheared off in the valvetrain, check the intake system to see if anything is loose or out of order. Next chech the fuel injection system to see if any parts have fallen off. If you cant find the problem there, take the part to a mechanic, or tow the car to one. Check everything and use some common sense when checking it. If it looks broke, theres a good chance that it is. Good Luck. ------------- Kenwood all the Way!
Posted By: adrianspeeder
Date Posted: July 25, 2005 at 10:24 PM
What is the engine? Anything loose on the intake side of things? End of some sort of sensor? Need more info.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: July 26, 2005 at 12:29 AM
Wow, I thought this thread dissappeared for for a day or 2. It is a 95 honda Civic Si. The engine is a d16z6. As soon as I get back over to where the car is I will take pictures with my camera instead of my gf's stupid camera phone.
As far as car forums, This is on two of the other more technical related forums. I skipped HT purposely.
Last time a mechanic touched it was 6 months ago for clutch and 9 months for timing belt and waterpump.
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Posted By: adrianspeeder
Date Posted: July 27, 2005 at 7:50 AM
Oh honda, sorry man. Don't know jack bout those. Wish you luck though.
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Posted By: bsinnest
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 4:08 PM
Hey, I asked my dad, and he said that it looks like the end off of the push rod. which makes sense to me as the push rod is right about the valve. if that helps or not?
Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: July 28, 2005 at 4:59 PM
Honda has over head cams no pushrods. it's rocker arms are on the cam and valve springs
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: July 30, 2005 at 10:51 AM
Looks like the plastic eye off a stuffed animal to me. If it was under a valve as the first two images seem to show, check to make sure your G/F didn't cram a teddy bear into the air intake thinking it would make a good filter.  ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 05, 2005 at 10:56 AM
teddy bear... that's funny.
She didn't, did she?
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: September 05, 2005 at 11:10 AM
No. She knows almost as much as I do about cars.
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Posted By: Absolute Audio
Date Posted: September 05, 2005 at 11:09 PM
even being a "EX-Honda Fanatic" and going thru a number of honda motors in and out i cant think of where that (from what i can tell) item could possibly have come from... first thought (guess) would be the MECH that did the timming belt might have "LOST" a bushing of some sort, or possable a IFO (identifible flying object) from a near workspace. Please post better pics of the "ITEM" when possible or a WHAT IT IS best of luck
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 7:30 AM
Come on guys, I'm not a mechanic, but I know that those are valves. 16 valves ( 4 per head ). Looks like the you bent the crap out of the valve(s) to me. Here's anoth pic of a dual valve system https://www.spagweb.com/gallery/rebuild2/images/valves1.jpg Usually when you bend a valve, it doesn't not let you start the vehicle. It usually makes a terrible knocking sound. But since you had peices come out of the head, this might have scored the head and the cylinder walls as well. ------------- Jeff
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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 9:20 AM
Except he wasn't taking a picture of the VALVES :) He was taking a picture of the little ball-lookin' thing UNDER the valves, jamming it open, and finally in his hand... It does not look like it ever made it TO the cylinder, either. It was too large an object to pass through the "curtain". It just wedged itself in the valve seat. This MAY have damaged the valve seat, though.
Did you get some better resolution photos of that thing yet?
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 9:36 AM
haemphyst wrote:
Did you get some better resolution photos of that thing yet?
Nah its gone. The valve seat is fine, thankfully the metal that "thing" is made out of is soft. Just waiting on the gaskets to get it back together. ------------- Certified Security Specialist
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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 11:58 AM
Crap man this is so frustrating! I know hondas like the back of my had. But damn I can't understand where that thing came from... My only thought is that if the inner part is threaded it could be part of your airbox...
Damn auex I need closure.
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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:01 PM
Crap man this is so frustrating! I know hondas like the back of my had. But damn I can't understand where that thing came from... My only thought is that if the inner part is threaded it could be part of your airbox...
Damn auex I need closure.
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Posted By: 704acc
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:16 PM
Could it be the valve keeper clip?
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Posted By: 704acc
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:19 PM
Could it be the valve keeper clip?
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: September 06, 2005 at 5:38 PM
5150azn wrote:
Damn auex I need closure.
Closure, Ok. It will be up and running on Sunday.
704acc wrote:
Could it be the valve keeper clip?
No, Nothing is missing. It couldn't have come from the valve train as everything is still in place and the piece in the picture is whole. Something would have to have broke for that to be there.
This will remain to be a mystery as to the fact there is no real way to know where the hell the damn thing came from. If I can find the thing I will take a better picture. ------------- Certified Security Specialist
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Posted By: lspker
Date Posted: November 09, 2005 at 10:12 PM
The part could only be injested through the intake. Can't be from the valve train. Possibly the bottom end of valve guide, part of spark plug?
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: November 20, 2005 at 9:28 PM
Well the car is up and running like a champ. The mystery item is still a mystery.
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