Guess who caught a thief?
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Topic: Guess who caught a thief?
Posted By: forbidden
Subject: Guess who caught a thief?
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 7:48 PM
I just install a customers cd player and the customer is in here paying the bill. He goes out to his car and I hear, "hey, that guy stole my cd player". Turns out that dude is riding a bike right towards me as I hear this. The customer is hot on his tail, 50 feet later the customer grabs the kids jacket and knocks him off his bike. The dude drops the cd player and keeps running. By then I was 15 feet away and running hard. I caught this dude and 220 pounds landed square on his back the second he turned to see if anyone was behind him. Wham onto the pavement he goes. Hold one arm down with one hand and his head with the other. All my weight on his back. Kid is toast for now. He has a knife in the other hand. I order him to throw it away, he does not. I repeat the order and he does not comply. I put my knee on his head and remove the knife out of his hand and throw it away. The kid was fighting for all he was worth. Mistake #1, I let the dude come up, even though I have both of his arms behind his back. I lean him over a car. The dude grabs me by the shorts and starts lifting, now he grabs the big guy and I immediately take him to the ground, He does not release. I drift him once in the head, he releases. Now he is on his back and trying to eye gouge me. I use my left hand and force his head to the side. I have all my weight on his chest. I drill him twice with my right hand and knocked him out. Game over. Someone comes and holds one arm down while I keep his body immobile and his right arm pinned. Then we watch the police drive right on by as they were looking for us. All over a $50.00 cd player. Stupid dude just got out of jail for theft under two months ago. Now he has a assault charge and another theft charge to go on his rap sheet that is pages long. See you next year when you get out ***clown. I will never make mistake #1 again. I also do not recommend that anyone try something like this at the same time. You must know your legal bounds and what you can and cannot do. Anyway that is my excitement for the day. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 7:57 PM
One for Forbidden... 0 for dumb kid !
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: arrow12
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 10:06 PM
forbidden... You're a beast. And I thought you were getting old  . Sounds like a good beating to me. I know not to steal anything from you or your customers  . ------------- That's my opinion. Take it, leave it, or correct me.
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 11:15 PM
Those shiny mountie handcuffs sure would have come in handy.
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 11:37 PM
I am a beast, didn't you see the pic of me that Jeff took, that was on a good day. People should just not steal in general. As far as the mountie handcuffs go, I was given a polite, thank you but no thank you with your application and we cannot tell you the reason why. Guess I get to be an audio guy for awhile longer now.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 11:46 PM
Sorry to hear about the RCMP shrugin you off man, but taking down another piece of scum is always a good thing.
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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 11:51 PM
stevdart wrote:
Those shiny mountie handcuffs sure would have come in handy.
He would have to take them off his bed post first  ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: forklift
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 1:36 PM
I wish I had that happen, I got some rage to unlease on some theives!
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hoping I pass the 1st class for the first time on 5-18-6, wish me luck!
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 3:53 PM
Man, I don't know Rob. You risked getting cut over a $50 CD player? I got held up at gun point when I was running a store in New Jersey and I'm no pussy, but I gladly let the scumbag take whatever he wanted, that's why God invented insurance. I'm really glad you took this idiot off the street, but the most important thing is you didn't get hurt.
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 4:01 PM
At no point in time did I want to hurt this person, I should have made that clear. All I wanted to do was restrain him and prevent myself from being hurt. When he decided to struggle and fight (and fight dirty as he went for my nuts, then throat and finally my eyes), it was only then that I used enough force to incapacitate him. Nobody should openly be looking to cause another person harm in any circumstance.
Again, I entered into this expecting the worst and had I not thought that he had something under his coat, the entire thing could have turned out way different. In 5 seconds he went from nothing in his hands (as I had been watching them while I was running after him) to me being launched through the air and taking him to the ground and pinning both him and each arm. By the time he hit the ground, the knife was in his left hand.
The bad news is that he pleaded out for the theft charge and the Crown dropped the assault charge. 30 days and that is all he gets for a repeat offender. (and a banged up face from some 2 nice KO punches + a little pavement grind).
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: forklift
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 7:17 PM
watch your back man, he knows where you work!
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hoping I pass the 1st class for the first time on 5-18-6, wish me luck!
Posted By: godd dan it
Date Posted: May 24, 2006 at 4:53 AM
I dont think I would of done the same. You never know what the person has on them and most likely a thief will carry a weapon. Its like catching somebody breaking into your car late at night. Do you run out and tackle them........run out and try scaring them away.........or call the cops? Its a hard situation.
Posted By: spookiestylez
Date Posted: July 03, 2006 at 12:39 PM
godd dan it wrote:
I dont think I would of done the same. You never know what the person has on them and most likely a thief will carry a weapon. Its like catching somebody breaking into your car late at night. Do you run out and tackle them........run out and try scaring them away.........or call the cops? Its a hard situation.
Its called "open front door w/ M4A3 carbine and M6 laser/tac light, wrap one into the tube and demand they get on the ground before you air em out!....LOL....or just say HEY and snap a nice pic of em w/ the digi cam Forbidden, good job taking that ***clown off the street. Says alot about your character to chase em down and incapicitate him untill the police arrived. Kudos! ------------- RTFM
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 03, 2006 at 2:18 PM
So, you took down a guy who was trying to rob a CD player from a guy you sold the CD player to and your name happens to be Rob, who stopped a robber? Cool coincedence, lol spookiestylez wrote:
Its called "open front door w/ M4A3 carbine and M6 laser/tac light, wrap one into the tube and demand they get on the ground before you air em out!....
I wish we could do that in California, legally anyway. I am sure people have that and more somewhere throughout this state. ------------- I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: spookiestylez
Date Posted: July 15, 2006 at 11:08 PM
Melted Fabric wrote:
So, you took down a guy who was trying to rob a CD player from a guy you sold the CD player to and your name happens to be Rob, who stopped a robber? Cool coincedence, lol spookiestylez wrote:
Its called "open front door w/ M4A3 carbine and M6 laser/tac light, wrap one into the tube and demand they get on the ground before you air em out!....
I wish we could do that in California, legally anyway. I am sure people have that and more somewhere throughout this state.
Virginia has the best gun laws, we just get raped on taxes ------------- RTFM
Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: July 30, 2006 at 10:15 AM
forbidden wrote:
At no point in time did I want to hurt this person, I should have made that clear. All I wanted to do was restrain him and prevent myself from being hurt. When he decided to struggle and fight (and fight dirty as he went for my nuts, then throat and finally my eyes), it was only then that I used enough force to incapacitate him. Nobody should openly be looking to cause another person harm in any circumstance.
Fight dirty?... and you are looking to become law enforcement? Around here, the LEO definition of a fair fight is that they get to go home after the job's over. One of the basic tenets of law enforcement is 'Peace through overwhelming odds'.. ie; having the suspect *know*, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that _they_will_lose_. Period. And even then, you run into some that just do not care. Yeah, your first mistake was giving the guy his feet back. Might I suggest next time you zip tie his wrists and ankles before you get off. The guy pulled a knife on you..he was willing to escalate this to assault with a deadly weapon with intent. what if he had a second one? and decided instead of grabbing your shorts he decided to stab you? Jim
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: July 30, 2006 at 8:26 PM
Well, considering that I had padded him down for any more weapons and I was in complete control over him, I was fairly safe for that part. I had his arms pressed behind his back and locked, I got to close and had to let his arms go. He had zero chance to do anything as I had him pressed against a vehicle trunk. When he decided to grab my shorts, I had to let him go. All I did was pick him up by the arms and throw him to the ground with me on top of him. It took me literally 3 seconds to break his hold. When he continued to struggle it was then that I applied enough force to incapacitate him. I know what I would do different next time, that's for sure.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: placebo-pete
Date Posted: August 04, 2006 at 6:44 AM
Maximum respect forbidden for taking down that scum i'm just new to the country after living in England and then Ireland And I don't really know what to expect in terms of thievery and the whole car audio scene, in general is there a lot of car audio theft here in Canada? Because i know in Ireland I could park up and leave my car unlocked just about anywhere and the radio would still be in it when I got back Or is that just Irish Naievety on my part Any advice would be greatly appreciated Cheers Placebo-Pete
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