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Topic: dei 610t relay

Posted By: jcs091570
Subject: dei 610t relay
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 2:22 AM

I understand I will need to hook up this relay to the - output wire of my DEI 530t which connects to my blue - input wire of my viper to avoid triggering sensors during operation. I know yellow is 12v ign and orange is ground when armed.. just need to know which end the green connects to and the black? thanks



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 3:19 AM
No need for it,  DEI internal sensors won't work for until 15 secs after arming,  to prevent any problems whilst venting,  just use an ordinary (cheaper) relay like this :-  blue wire, cut on side and take to 30, other side to 87a take 12v+ at 2amps to 86 and your aux output that you use to vent the windows to 85.  If you use your armed output,  I assume orange to that relay,  it will be latched CONSTANTLY whilst the alarm is on thus flat battery.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 3:36 AM
This is an alternative if you are still worried about this, blue to to 30 and 87a as before, armed output to 85 and take a spur from one of the 530ts UP wires to 86;  thus the relay will only be energised  or powered whilst the windows are going up. Use a diode on the armed output, band to alarm,. I've never had a problem with this, but if you want to play safe use 2 relays.  I've 2 x 530ts on my car and never had to resort to this, except some years ago on a Maxima as the roof was closing,  the metal casing for the glass roof was tripping the prox. Come to think of it I put rof close on a lot of BMW Cabriolets and the timing for E36 is 40+ secs whilst the E46 is about 30secs and I've never had any problems.  You might lok at DEI's 8166 relay for your purposes, smaller much cheaper under $3 and prewired.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 3:42 AM
By the way I think you meant 611t NOT 610 they don't show a 610




Posted By: jcs091570
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Thank you. The only reason I ask is because the blue - trigger wire out of my alarm brain is connected to a multi sensor diode box which my trunk, hood and tilt sensor are connected to.  I thought these were instant triggers even after the alarm is armed. what do you think?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 5:16 PM
What make of alarm is it,  your last question is right DEI product is instant on trunk and hood, 10secs on doors and 15 secs prox, shock etc when wired directly to the sensor ports.  If to blue wire it will be instant the quickest fix would be to the green or purple door contacts, only the tilt would be affected but if the problem hasn't yet occurred don't try to fix it.




Posted By: jcs091570
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 6:06 PM
I have a Viper 690xv. My 2 shock sensor and prox sensor are wired via the sensor port on the unit itself.  The green wire from the unit connects to my door trigger.. and the - blue trigger wire is ran to a diode box that has the trunk, hood and tilt sensor hooked to it.. so all those sensors are separated by 3 diodes. So I am trying to figure out where I will connect the neg output wire from the dei 530t. I have an extra 611t relay with orange, green, yellow and black wires. Can I  connect it to the blue or purple door lock pulse wires to get the pulse it needs? Thanks for you help. I just want to make it as easy as possible because all my wiring is loomed and hidden and my brain is behind my tach in the dash.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Don't you mean the BLUE lock or GREEN unlock wires?  A) my relay idea was a lot cheaper and B) If you must connect it,  go to the GREEN lock wire NOT the green door contact,  set as a neg input.  I think you're confusing the 2  (ie green and purple door trigger contacts for green and blue door lock/unlock triggers)  N.B. your lock/unlock wires might be GREEN/ black and blue/black.




Posted By: jcs091570
Date Posted: March 29, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Yes I meant the Blue lock and Green unlock wires to clarify that.  So if I can connect the -pulse output wire from the 530t to one of those wires would it still work right? If not I will go with the relay idea. I am confused whether or not I make a connection to the - trigger blue wire from the alarm brain.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 30, 2009 at 3:14 AM
One of us is getting confused, the ORANGE wire from your 690 triggers the 530 close, a spare aux output such as the RED / white can be used for vent. As I said before you can't use the orange to trigger a  normal relay but if you want to use the 611, it wil work OK. Just a thought, run the tilt sensor in with the shock sensor and the problem will go away.




Posted By: jcs091570
Date Posted: March 30, 2009 at 4:43 AM
Sorry to confuse. Here is my main hang up.. on the 530t the H2/5 gray wire which is (-) output during activation... it says to connect the wire to an optional relay P/N 610t  to bypass sensors which may trigger the alarm during operation.  This wire continues to ouput negative ground for 5 seconds after the window motors have stopped.  So I have one of these relays.. with the yellow 12v ign wire, orange GWA wire, and a black and a green wire. Basicly it is the same relay as the starter kill.. so I just need the configuration of how to hook this up so I don't trip my alarm instant triggers being I have things already hooked to the blue (-) wire coming from the brain. Thanks for all your help




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM
You're starting to make this very complicated, first either do as I showed you in an earlier post with a cheap relay or reconnect tilt to a sensor port, secondly has this problem actually arisen?




Posted By: jcs091570
Date Posted: March 31, 2009 at 1:55 AM
I think I made this more confusing myself than anything. So I will just start from scratch. I will be installing the 530t and understand all the wiring for the windows. The only thing I need to clarify is connecting the Gray - output during activiation wire from the 530t  to my viper alarm system.  I have a bosch relay that I can use.. the color codes on this particular relay are 86 blk, 30 blue, 87 yellow, 85 white, and 87a is red.  So I just need to know which one the gray wire from the 530t connects to,  and which wire from the alarm connects to the relay. I believe you said to cut the blue - wire. I apologize for making this difficult. thanks




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 31, 2009 at 2:13 AM
Grey from 530t to 85 white, bcut blue from alarm, 1 side to 30 blue, other to 87a red, 12v+ at 2amps to87 yellow place a diode across 86 and 85 with the band towards 86 as a safety factor.




Posted By: jcs091570
Date Posted: March 31, 2009 at 2:20 AM
Great thank you. If you could clarify what bcut is..  So I gather the blue wire on the alarm brain side can connect to 30 blue.. and the blue wire on the sensor side can connect to 87a red.  Thanks again




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 31, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Quite correct, it doesn't matter which way round 87a and 30 go by the way.





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