power window problem
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Topic: power window problem
Posted By: nazim
Subject: power window problem
Date Posted: April 14, 2012 at 1:19 AM
I,m remaking the interior of an 25 year old pontiac fiero. I can´t figure out how to remake my new buttons for the power window. What i need is a diagra of how to connect the realys for: two buttons per motor.
One button for up, and one button for down
in the car per side : 4 cables 1 is +
1 is -
2 cables for the engine
Can sombody help my understand and maybe dra a diagram for me?
Replies:
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Look in the relay section on this site, look for "adding actuators".
It's exactly the same circuit.
All these motors have 2 motor wires.
In 99% of vehicles exc. some Mercedes and Mk II Golf/Rabbit, both sit on ground at rest (i.e. off) then one goes 12V+ while the other stays at ground to go one way, vice versa for the other way.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Come to think of it, you could substitute a DEI 530t for the relays and give yourself a one-shot up and down system.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Ignore my last reply, please describe your window switch, how many terminals?
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: April 14, 2012 at 9:47 PM
take a breath howie.....
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yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
Posted By: nazim
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Sorry for my bad english... but the connector in the car has 4 cables( 1 is +, 1 is ground and 2 that goes to the power window motor) and the original switch (taken apart)har 4 on the bottom and 6 on top.
all i need is to connect 2 new buttons per window, one button for up, and one button for down.
when i connect two cabbles on the original connector (one from + to one off the motor cable and the ground to the other motor cabel) the window goes up. but when i switch these cables the window goes down.
the new button are simle push buttons. Plz help draw a working diagram on how to connect the relays. i think i need one relay per button.
Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 12:51 AM
i googled fiero window switches and found a guys post on doing what i think you are trying to do.
here is the link to his post...
https://www.chalnet.net/Fiero/Fiero%20Power%20Window%20Switch%20Upgrade.doc ------------- yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
Posted By: nazim
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 3:20 AM
First off...thanks for youre quick replyes.
I saw that one too, but thats not what i need.
this is what i whant:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20060206-2-062039.html
but with diffrent buttons and no one-push-down
somthing like this:https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000035-5.html
but i need a diagram i´m not an electrician i´m plumber haha
plz plz plz plz plz
it´s driving my crazy
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 5:20 AM
Sorry itsyuk but the language barrier, Arabic to Swedish to English is confusing me.
The original switches will work fine, DPCO momentary, without a relay.
Nazim what are you trying to achieve, one shot? Direct replacement?
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: nazim
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 5:45 AM
Yes...almost.The panel is ready with holes for the buttons and all.
All i want is to connect the buttons.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 5:46 AM
Using 4 x momentary push buttons and 4 x relays follow this diagram.
p.button_win_control.bmp
As far as I understand that's what you want which takes us straight back to my first post. ------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: nazim
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 6:06 AM
I will give it a try. But my father inlaw died yesterday. Soooo next week i think. Thanks i will let u know.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 15, 2012 at 6:34 AM
My condolences to your family.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: nazim
Date Posted: April 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM
Thanks a lot. It worked perfect.
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