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6VDC At 86 Lug In Power Distribution Box, 2006 Hyundai Sonata

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Printed Date: May 02, 2025 at 1:35 AM


Topic: 6VDC At 86 Lug In Power Distribution Box, 2006 Hyundai Sonata

Posted By: dc1lothian
Subject: 6VDC At 86 Lug In Power Distribution Box, 2006 Hyundai Sonata
Date Posted: April 02, 2025 at 8:18 AM

My dilemma falls into engine electronics rather than the usual fare found within this forum. But electrons are electrons, and I figure all of us know how to turn a wrench under the hood and not just inside the cabin, soooo...

Wifey grumbled that the cabin air isn't cooling in her car. I found that the clutch isn't engaging when AC is activated. It does engages when I run a lead straight to 12v, so obviously the field coil is good. I plugged an OEMTOOLS 27211 into the AC relay socket in the power distribution box (engine compartment) and it indicates a short, according to the tool's literature, on the 86 lug, and I read ~6vdc-to-ground on this lug. The service manual isn't much help here.

Anyone know what ~6vdc on 86 indicates? ...and what my next t'shooting steps should be? I really don't want to take this car to a mechanic.



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Posted By: lee.lopez
Date Posted: April 02, 2025 at 9:09 AM
Post the year/make/model so we can look for a diagram.




Posted By: dc1lothian
Date Posted: April 02, 2025 at 9:38 AM
'06 Hyundai Sonata GLS

The tool activates the clutch, indicating the harness from AC relay to the field coil to ground is good.

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Posted By: lee.lopez
Date Posted: April 02, 2025 at 10:35 AM
Have you checked the system pressure? If it's low it'll typically keep the compressor from running.

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Hmmm, here's a few conflicting diagrams (not sure which is correct). Either way one side of the coil should have 12 volts with the key on.

I helped a friend once with a similar issue. I wired a relay under the dash that provided power to the coil with the key on. A toggle switch went to ground on the other side of the coil. When she flipped the switch with the key on, power was sent to the a/c compressor clutch.

I just told her to cycle it off for a minute or so after running a few.




Posted By: dc1lothian
Date Posted: April 02, 2025 at 2:32 PM
Excellent question. I'm kind of embarrassed I didn't think to do this sooner. b'woof...

Soooo....
The system is working exactly as designed. Refrigerant pressure is below the threshold required by the PCM to activate the A/C Relay Control. I know this because I just returned from my garage. The gauges read basically zero, meaning, there's no refrigerant in this car. My diagnostics now shift from electrical to locating a leak in the refrigerant system with a UV light.

I cannot believe I didn't check this first. ...oy

Clearly I didn't need to post my issue on this forum. But thanks for the replies nonetheless.




Posted By: lee.lopez
Date Posted: April 02, 2025 at 5:45 PM
If your lines appear "darker" at the crimped ends, it's a sign of leakage. That's not uncommon.

You can add some UV dye and repressurize to pinpoint leaks. Wear some polarized sunglasses and shine a UV light.





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