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Where can I find heavier relays, 80 amp?

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Topic: Where can I find heavier relays, 80 amp?

Posted By: mn12sc35th
Subject: Where can I find heavier relays, 80 amp?
Date Posted: October 20, 2006 at 7:59 AM

I've got an electric fan mounted (a spare from another car I have). The thing is a 2 speed fan, and it pulls a pretty decent load (eats 30 amp fuses instantly, I'm told it draws around 60-70). I have the low speed run through a controller, but I'd like to run the high speed to a switch. The problem there is that both sides cannot be running at once or it will burn it up. I've made a standard 30 amp SPDT relay work, but I'm worried about it burning that up. I'd rather have something I know will standup to it. Anyone have a source for a relay that's rated around 80 amps?




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Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: October 20, 2006 at 8:28 AM




Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: October 20, 2006 at 2:17 PM

Wire 30A relays in parallel.  That will probably be your cheapest and easiest solution.

When wiring contacts in parallel you add their current capabilities together.



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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: October 20, 2006 at 5:58 PM
Probably should get a small solenoid for that much power.
After looking, this is pretty much what volt posted.

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Posted By: Ween
Date Posted: October 20, 2006 at 7:21 PM

hi,

bosch has 75A relays .... available on ebay for around $25 with shipping.

mark





Posted By: mn12sc35th
Date Posted: October 20, 2006 at 10:42 PM

Thanks for your suggestions.

On that PAC-80, it's hard to tell by the pictures (even downloaded the pdf manual), but does it have both the open and closed outputs? The relays I found on ebay all lack the open output (the 87a pin, as do pretty much all of the relays you can buy locally it seems...).

Being that I can only have 1 on at a time or risk burning it up, the most obvious way to me was to use the closed output (87) to run the high speed, and the open (87a) to run the low speed controller. I could do this with a couple relays in parallel though, I hadn't even thought of that.





Posted By: 1998chevy1500
Date Posted: October 21, 2006 at 2:06 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess with the current draws and the 2 speed functionality you are using one of the Taurus fans. A good place for quality relays is https://www.waytekwire.com/

Also this should help you out with your wiring problem https://www.offroad-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2224




Posted By: mn12sc35th
Date Posted: October 21, 2006 at 7:22 AM

Close.... it's from a T-Bird SC. From the look of those pictures, it's the same fan except the shroud on my fan is smaller (the SC uses a thicker, skinnier downflow radiator to make room for an intercooler). I had an extra one to slap on my base model T-Bird. Sounds like it draws about the same amperage too. The stock alternator on this thing is only a 75amp, so the voltmeter made me nervous at idle the first few times... I have a 3.8 mustang engine around here, and those have 130 amp alts, so I'm going to see about it next. It'll require a little rewiring though, as my stock one has a plug for the B+ output rather than a post (and it has 2 B+'s on that plug....).

That diagram looks like a better option. I essentially had mine going the same route through that center relay, just needed to go one step further (adding the bigger relays after it). Just have to add my fan controller between the low speed output and the fan itself and I'm good (don't want the fan running all the time, takes too long to warm up if I do). Thanks.





Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: October 21, 2006 at 9:49 AM

Have you looked to see how Ford controlled it?.. On those, there's usually a control module mounted to the radiator support that has a bunch of relays in it.. you could use that if you got the wiring diagram for it.

Jim





Posted By: mn12sc35th
Date Posted: October 21, 2006 at 2:16 PM
I do have the diagrams for it, that module you're talking about (the Intregrated Relay Control Module) is essentially 3 relays, but it uses a signal from the ECU to actually turn the fans on and off. I considered that, but I dont have an extra one, and I think one would cost a little more than 3 relays would.




Posted By: hotwaterwizard
Date Posted: October 22, 2006 at 9:34 PM

why not just use a starter relay. Other name starter Solenoid

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Posted By: Ween
Date Posted: October 22, 2006 at 10:08 PM

hi,

starter solenoids are typically rated for intermittent duty only, not meant to be left on.  power contactors can be designed for intermittent or continuous duty.  https://www.stancor.com/wrdstc/pdfs/pg98.pdf

hope this helps,

mark






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