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Topic: ’97 hyundai tiburon alarm wiring problem

Posted By: drummerdude
Subject: ’97 hyundai tiburon alarm wiring problem
Date Posted: July 01, 2009 at 11:18 PM

I am wiring up an alarm on my dad's car and need some help, I have installed more than a few car electronics before, I got the wiring diagram from this site, and it says some of the wire are in the driver's kick panel, where there are ALOT of wiring harnesses and connectors.  cannot tell which one it is referring to, if I had my guess it would be the only one that I couldn't get to which was stuffed way in the back (so I couldn't check it) please help with pictures, or maybe some more direction as to which harness I need to be splicing into.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 02, 2009 at 3:05 AM
Do you have a DMM, if so do what the pros do. You use it to check and test the functions you're after. Why do you think I've more than 10 free T Shirts?




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 02, 2009 at 10:09 AM
I do have a digital multimeter, but I do not have the time to test the probably 60+ wires. that will work if I knew what harness it was and didn't know the color. thanks for the reply though.

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Posted By: yimke
Date Posted: July 03, 2009 at 9:38 AM
test it, like howie said. There can't be too many wires colored the same, and i would hate to see a car on fire from a wrong wire hookup.

If i remember right though I did not have to go to the kick for any wires on a r/s, keyless, alarm on my last 97 tiburon. I went to the running board area. Other than that most of them are at the switches. You will have to go to the passenger side for a passenger side door trigger.




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 03, 2009 at 11:00 AM

yimke] wrote:

est it, like howie said. There can't be too many wires colored the same, and i would hate to see a car on fire from a wrong wire hookup.

If i remember right though I did not have to go to the kick for any wires on a r/s, keyless, alarm on my last 97 tiburon. I went to the running board area. Other than that most of them are at the switches. You will have to go to the passenger side for a passenger side door trigger.

first off, telling me the exact same thing is utterly pointless. doing it like the pros, would not include wiring an alarm to the rocker panel when all the wires are within a foot of where you would most likely place the brain. on top of that I didn't have any extra wire on hand so I couldn't have done that even if I wanted to, which I don't, I know how to identify wires, I was asking where in the tiburon the driver's kick panel wiring harness is? that is what I need to know, preferably with pictures. on top of that I don't have a clamp-on multimeter and I am not poking a hole in a bunch of wires to find out what they are.



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I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.




Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: July 03, 2009 at 11:32 AM

You strip a small amount of insulation off a wire that is the color you are looking for and test it.  If it is the wrong color cover up the exposed area with a piece of Scotch 33+ electrical tape.  That is how it is done.

Or, if you want to get fancy, get new leads for your meter that have "bed of nails" in them - they pierce the wire with small pin holes that don't need to be covered back up.



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Kevin Pierson




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 03, 2009 at 12:24 PM

The answer to your last question. Where in the Tiberon the driver's kick panel is?  Try the driver's kick panel. Now calm down logic (and experience) tells us the following:- Generally ign and starter wires will be in the ignition loom, along with indicators and or sidelights and headlights. Brake, reverse lights and door contacts will be in the drive side floor looms*, lock control wires and will be in the kick panels usually at driver's side. There are usually plugs inside the DKP where you can get at the wires without any stripping. Follow these simple rules, calm down, don't blame us because you are too lazy to test, and you will find your answers. Good lord we haven't even gotten to tach or by-passes and you're already hot under the collar.

*I'm talking Oriental with right hand drive, generally, with right hand drive vehicles the main front to rear loom is on the right hand floor loom. The reverse applies to left hand drive.





Posted By: joch1314
Date Posted: July 03, 2009 at 12:39 PM

If you don't feel like testing a bunch of wires then don't do the install!!!  Thats exactly what is required when installing an alarm or remote start or whatever, test the wires and when you find what you're looking for hook it up.  The fact that you've already got all wizy on us is going to do nothing to help you out.  This is a very informative website/forum and there are plenty of people on here that can help you out and that is obviously why you are here.....YOU need help!  Calm down and let US help YOU!  If you're too lazy to test for any of the wires that you need then pay the money to have somebody do it for you. 

Driver's kick panel is exactly where it says it is.....in the driver's kick panel....where your left foot would sit as you drive.  unless you drive with both feet! 



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Posted By: yimke
Date Posted: July 04, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Constant 12V+     Blue/Black        Ignition Switch Harness
Starter      BLACK / YELLOW      Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition      BLACK/ White      Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition 2      RED / White      Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition 3      WHITE/ Blue      Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory      Blue / YELLOW (+)      Ignition Switch Harness
Tach      Light Blue      Or Brown At Coil
Brake Switch      Dark Green      Brake Switch
Trunk Pin      BROWN / Red (-)      Driver's Kick Panel
Parking Lights      GREEN / WHITE (+)      Driver's Kick Panel
Door Trigger      BLACK/ Blue (-)      Driver's Kick Panel
Horn Wire      BLACK/ Red (-)      Steering Column

You can find your parking light at the dimmer switch is the easiest.

For power locks on this you need a actuator in the driver side door.

And like I said before, but you did not comprehend. To get the passenger side door trigger you HAVE to run a wire to the passenger side or I believe you can grab it at the instrument cluster. But the cluster is a pain in the A**.

Otherwise a domelight trigger will work, but it has delay.

Here is the minimum proper tools you need for cheap. Less than install cost.

Multi-meter
https://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90899

Stripper
https://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98410

Blades
https://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39748

Solder and Iron
https://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47887
https://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95861

Tape (I would prefer 3M super 33+ as said before)
https://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94066




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 04, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Nice post, yimke, the original poster should look at  "Viper 1002 in e36 BMW " in the security section to watch someone listening and taking the right* advice. *Not being big headed but on this site I'm the top BMW man, I've done hundreds of e36/46 and I know them inside out. 




Posted By: yimke
Date Posted: July 04, 2009 at 1:53 PM
I wish I could touch more BMW's like you. I only do about 1 a month, but i like them a lot better than Mercedes. Mercs can burn and die slowly. I would call myself a Mitsubishi guru, cause I do tons of them and have owned quite a few.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 04, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Funnily enough  you will rarely see me answer questions on Rams/F150's etc.etc  Not really surpprising I did do an 05 Ram recently and I've done a couple of Litenings, but generally Euro and Jap, stil prefer Japs, ref. your comment, personal car is a '99 Galant, G4 alarm and remote start with Alpine* H/U and a mix of SAS and Infinity speakers. Nothing like the 3 Galants I had in the 80s with multiple amps, 10 speakers, 2 carphones, ah those were the days.  *Yes my Alpine is 2+years old, I wouldn't touch the current crop, they've cheapend them.




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 05, 2009 at 6:23 PM
WOW, you guys really are cooky pet monkeyes, I know how to wire an alarm and I can find the wires at different places in the car, but I would like to find them within a foot of where I am installing the alarm. I am NOT asking how to identify wires, I AM asking where the driver's kick panel wiring harness that contains the colored wires that are listed in the vehicle diagram for a 97 tiburon, and please don't hijack my topic, if you want to pat each other on the back, or make yourself sound amazing to the other person do it in a PM. if you are not going to post where the specific wiring harness is that I am looking for, then don't post anything at all.

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I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.




Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: July 05, 2009 at 7:06 PM

drummerdude wrote:

WOW, you guys really are cooky pet monkeyes, I know how to wire an alarm and I can find the wires at different places in the car, but I would like to find them within a foot of where I am installing the alarm. I am NOT asking how to identify wires, I AM asking where the driver's kick panel wiring harness that contains the colored wires that are listed in the vehicle diagram for a 97 tiburon, and please don't hijack my topic, if you want to pat each other on the back, or make yourself sound amazing to the other person do it in a PM. if you are not going to post where the specific wiring harness is that I am looking for, then don't post anything at all.

They're in the drivers kick panel.



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Kevin Pierson




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Frankly, you are being rather pompous and irritable especially when so far 3 of us have given you the right answer, DRIVER'S BLOODY KICKWELL!  If you have a problem with looming up more than 1 ft, buy some more bloody insulating tape.




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 12:01 PM

WOW AGAIN, I thought I might get some stupid answers, but I thought someone would be helpful

I Obviously know where the driver's kick panel is ********, and I know that the wires are in the Driver's Kick panel

I AM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE THAT CAN TELL ME BY EXPERIENCE WHERE THE SPECIFIC WIRE HARNESS THAT I NEED< IS AT WHAT PLACE IN THE DRIVERS KICK PANEL AND HOPEFULLY WITH PICTURES.

if you honestly think you are being helpful with answers like the driver's kick panel wiring harness is in the driver's kick panel, then you are obviously a little slow, so please be helpful and not sarcastic. thank you, if you can't tell me exactly which of the 10 harnesses in the kick panel I need or can't show me a picture of whcih one it is, then just don't post an answer, so far you all have only tried to answer questions I am NOT asking and have avoided the only one in which I have requested help.



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I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Please, I am looking for someone who knows which wire harness in the driver;s kick panel I need in a 97 tiburon, thank you

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I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.




Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 1:10 PM

You do realize that it would take a professional installer less then 5 minutes to find and verify the correct wires in the kick panel, right?  So, instead of spending a few minutes with a meter, you've spent 5 DAYS on an installers forum calling people names and generally being a jerk to the people you are asking for help.

We've answered your question multiple times - if you want more detailed information maybe you would be better off asking in a tiburon specific forum instead of a general 12vdc forum.



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Kevin Pierson




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 1:18 PM
no, I am being a jerk to people who are treating me like an idiot, and not answering the actual question I have asked, and I have looked for the right color wire and done some testing and the only loom I didn't test is the one I can't get to, so I am trying to find out if I need to find the wires somewhere else because that is the loom I need, or is there one that i am missing, I am looking for direct information from a specific make and model vehicle, and all I have got is your supposedly PRO information, I must noy be abywhere near a pro, but would appreciate an answer to the actual question(s) I have asked, thank you

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I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 4:33 PM
KPierson wrote:

                                                                           - if you want more detailed information maybe you would be better off asking in a tiburon specific forum instead of a general 12vdc forum.


see, now that is a valid answer to the question. I would expect no replies before I would have expected people to tell me to use a multimeter or tell me where it is when the name gives me the same answer.



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I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.




Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 4:58 PM
drummerdude wrote:

KPierson wrote:

                                                                           - if you want more detailed information maybe you would be better off asking in a tiburon specific forum instead of a general 12vdc forum.


see, now that is a valid answer to the question. I would expect no replies before I would have expected people to tell me to use a multimeter or tell me where it is when the name gives me the same answer.


But that's the thing - you came to a professional installer site and asked for help.  We helped you by telling you to do what a professional would do.  When professional installers install alarms they don't have pictures, just a sheet of paper that may or may not have the correct wire color and general location.  To an installer, a DMM is their best friend.  You take whatever information you can get, grab your meter, and jump in until you find everything you need!  Sometimes you test 4 or 5 wires before you find the correct one, it's just a part of it.



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Kevin Pierson




Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 5:08 PM
KPierson wrote:

drummerdude wrote:

KPierson wrote:

                                                                           - if you want more detailed information maybe you would be better off asking in a tiburon specific forum instead of a general 12vdc forum.


see, now that is a valid answer to the question. I would expect no replies before I would have expected people to tell me to use a multimeter or tell me where it is when the name gives me the same answer.


But that's the thing - you came to a professional installer site and asked for help.  We helped you by telling you to do what a professional would do.  When professional installers install alarms they don't have pictures, just a sheet of paper that may or may not have the correct wire color and general location.  To an installer, a DMM is their best friend.  You take whatever information you can get, grab your meter, and jump in until you find everything you need!  Sometimes you test 4 or 5 wires before you find the correct one, it's just a part of it.


I asked for help with a question, you guys ignored the question and answered what I already know, I figured with all the professional installers somebody would have some insight into that specific car, not how they would tell, but where they found the wire when they did this particular car. some of you answered because it feels good to help solve someone's problems espescially when you know more than they do, but I have only had that one posts even attempt to answer my question. thanks for the replies but I already know how to test wires, and just want car specific answers. if you can't help with 97 tiburon specific answers then thanks, but no thanks



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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 5:59 PM

drummerdude wrote:

I do have a digital multimeter, but I do not have the time to test the probably 60+ wires. that will work if I knew what harness it was and didn't know the color. thanks for the reply though.
 

Yet still he has time to waste sitting in front of his pc arguing with you guys. posted_image 



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Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: July 06, 2009 at 6:21 PM
t&t tech wrote:

drummerdude wrote:

I do have a digital multimeter, but I do not have the time to test the probably 60+ wires. that will work if I knew what harness it was and didn't know the color. thanks for the reply though.
 

Yet still he has time to waste sitting in front of his pc arguing with you guys. posted_image 


being married with a child and living across town from my parents leaves me plenty more time in front of my pc, and on top of that it is a daily driver and can't be replaced, and the other day I got rained and had to stop and it will be another week or two before I can finish the wiring so i will spend plenty of time trying to get my question answered, BUT THANKS ANYWAY FOR YOUR USELESS 2 CENTS



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