viper 5904, 1998 celica a/t heater prob

Hey guys, Got a problem with the heater not working with the remote start.

Everything else is fine but I noticed this today that the heater is not working when using the remote start. It works fine otherwise. Also

I noticed that when in remote start the tach is not operational, though the remote start works as it should. On the wiring list below whatever is "not used" is not hooked up. Tried to make it simple. Thanks!


H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT (battery positive) (WHITE +)IGNITION HARNESS

H1/2 BLACK (-) (CHASSIS GROUND)

H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT (CONNECTed TO ALARM SIREN +)

H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE (Not used)

H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT (GREEN +) DRIVER KICK PANEL (Green +)

H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT


H2 Harness, 24-pin connector:

H2/1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT (not used)

H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT (CHASSIS GROUND -)

H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT (not used)

H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT (not used)

H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT (not used)

H2/6 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT (RED / WHITE) DRIVERS KICK PANEL

H2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT (not used)

H2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT (not used)

H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT ( not used)

H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT (not used)

H2/11 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT (not used)

H2/12 VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT (not used)

H2/13 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT (not used)

H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT (not used)

H2/15 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT (not used)

H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT   (GREEN / WHITE +) ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL

H2/17 GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT N/O ( connected)

H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA (not used)

H2/19 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (not used)

H2/20 GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT (not used)

H2/21 WHITE/ BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT (not used)

H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT (not used)

H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT ( Gray + at igniter )

H2/24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT (not used)



Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector:

H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT ( BLACK + ) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/2 RED / WHITE (87) FLEX RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) CONSTANT 12 V ( WHITE +) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT ( GRAY + ) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) (BLACK/ WHITE+) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.

H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) (BLACK/ White+) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.

H3/6 RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) CONSTANT 12 V (WHITE+) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/7 PINK/WHITE (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT (car side of ign, acc or starter wire) (BLack +) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.

H3/8 PINK/BLACK (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT (key side of ign, acc or starter wire if needed) (Black +) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.

H3/9 RED / BLACK ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) CONSTANT 12V (WHITE +) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/10 NC No Connection



-------------
Don't know what the problem is yet... but I know what it's not.

Also, can this be because I spiced into the Black + wires as stated in Tech Tip document #1077 to avoid starter over run? just wondering.

-------------
Don't know what the problem is yet... but I know what it's not.

Above wiring is a bit screwed up.
Here are the correct connections.
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT ( BLACK + ) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/2 RED / WHITE (87) FLEX RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) CONSTANT 12 V ( WHITE +) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT ( GRAY + ) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) (BLACK/ WHITE+) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.


H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) (BLACK/ White+) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.
Cut the black white, green to key side, violet sto starter side.

H3/6 RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) CONSTANT 12 V (WHITE+) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/7 PINK/WHITE (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT (car side of ign, acc or starter wire) ( Black+) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.
Ignition loom blue/red


H3/8 PINK/BLACK (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT (key side of ign, acc or starter wire if needed) (Black +) SPLICE INTO IGN HARN.
Don't use
H3/9 RED / BLACK ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) CONSTANT 12V (WHITE +) IGNITION HARNESS

H3/10 NC No Connection

The second ignition (Blue/red) isn't being powered up.

-------------
Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Or;
Cut blue/red key side to pink/black.
Car side to pink/white.
But try the above first.
You appear not to have noticed that you have TWO ignition wires and done some completely unnecessary wiring additions to ign. 1.

-------------
Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Thanks alot Howie, I knew something was off about cutting into that Black wire but wasn't sure what I did wrong. Funny thing is a Toyota Alarm tech told me to hook it up the wrong way, lol. Now it works perfect.

Being everything is still apart I would like to add a couple more features and could use some more help from anyone?

Want to hook up the horn along with the siren. Can I just hook up
Green - off the steering column and hook up to
H2/8 BROWN / Black from alarm? Is there any draw backs to using the horn along with the siren?

Also, what about the headlights flashing along with the parking lights? I know I can get the headlights from the steering column mounted light switch RED / Black - but how to hook it up to the alarm and any draw backs doing so?

I have a very high end stereo system in my car and think the more the options from the alarm I can use could be better.

Thanks again
Peter



-------------
Don't know what the problem is yet... but I know what it's not.

Disregard that last post. I hooked up the horn but not the headlights as I have xenon headlights and don't want them going on and off every time with the alarm.

Everything works perfect and I have to thank the guys on this forum for that.

I also checked to see how much amp draw the system was using when armed and it's only 30ma and that's with the 508d the control led and the lighted Viper logo.

Thanks again!

Peter

-------------
Don't know what the problem is yet... but I know what it's not.

bospet40 wrote:

---

Disregard that last post. I hooked up the horn but not the headlights as I have xenon headlights and don't want them going on and off every time with the alarm.

Everything works perfect and I have to thank the guys on this forum for that.

I also checked to see how much amp draw the system was using when armed and it's only 30ma and that's with the 508d the control led and the lighted Viper logo.

Thanks again!

Peter

---

How do you calculate amp draw the system was using when armed ?