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Topic: polar start, 2005 gmc sierra

Posted By: cdn_blair
Subject: polar start, 2005 gmc sierra
Date Posted: March 09, 2013 at 2:07 PM

hey guys, (this may be in the wrong section, if so please move it)

im new to this board but did find some usefull information during my search, and have a question that hopefully someone will be able to answer.

I have a 2005 GMC Sierrra, Duramax, and i have a Polar start PS-4461TWE already in the truck.  It works great.  I recently purchased an Edge Insight unit.  The edge unit is not working properly in my truck.  I called Edge up and they had me plug the unit into the computer which tech support downloaded the data from the unit to analyse.  the answer that i recieved was that the car starter was sending a signal down the (purple) wire to the ODBII port which was inturupting the signal to the diagnostic unit. 

I have the dash of the truck pulled apart, have found the "purple wire" to the ODBII port which a wiring diagram i found on the web says is the "Serial Data Signal"  there are no wires from the starter attached to this (that i can tell)   

what i was hoping was that i could put a switch onto the wire sending this signal that would allow me to "break" the wire for the starter while i was driving and use the Edge unit, and then flip the switch back while i wasnt using the unit so i could still use the starter. 

My research is showing me that this is quickly becoming not that simple.  does anyone have any suggestions of what i can do so that i can use both of my "toys"

to save you guys some time here are some of the wiring diagrams that i have found.

Starter wiring diag. - https://dealers.automobilitydistribution.com/webapp/e-cellsell/e-commerce/webb2b/IC5/Techsupport_install_guides/POLARSTART/PS4461-TWE%20(2009)/PS-4461_qg_en_h50s50_090812.pdf

truck under dash wiring diag pg 18 - https://alarmsellout.com/support/diagrams/vehicle/GMC%20SIERRA%201988-2005.pdf

Thank you in advance.  Blair



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 10, 2013 at 3:38 AM
Use the status output or ground when running via a diode to a SPDT (5 pin or 87a) relay to disable the Edge during remote start until key takeover, see if that works.
Either that or a wire was missed on the original install.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: cdn_blair
Date Posted: March 10, 2013 at 6:22 AM
Thanks Howie. I wanna go the other way though, I would like to disable the starter once I have key takeover if possible. The edge unit only has a plug to the odbII port. And oddly seems to "communicate" with the truck more consistently if I start with the starter first.

However it still won't let me run a balance rate test (the main reason I bought the unit) because of communication issues

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The only difference between genius and stupidity.... Genius has its limits




Posted By: cdn_blair
Date Posted: March 10, 2013 at 7:01 AM
One more question. Roughly how long could I have the power unplugged from the unit before it loses its brain and I need to reprogram it?

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The only difference between genius and stupidity.... Genius has its limits




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 10, 2013 at 7:08 AM
If you're talking about the R/S, forever because it has a non-volatile memory bin the edge because it doesn't seem to do what you want any way.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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