AVIC-N1 Installers
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Forum Name: Mobile Video, GPS, and Navigation
Forum Discription: Mobile Video Head Units, DVD Players, LCD and TFT Monitors, Navigation, GPS, PS2, PS3, XBox, etc.
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Printed Date: May 03, 2024 at 6:13 PM
Topic: AVIC-N1 Installers
Posted By: Clay0011
Subject: AVIC-N1 Installers
Date Posted: December 25, 2004 at 5:59 PM
Hi all, I just bought a Pioneer AVIC-N1 and I am not experienced whatsoever with installing any kind of car electronics, so I have an install date scheduled with Tweeter on January 1st. I asked them if they could ground the E-brake wire or whatever so I could have the video playing while the car was in drive, they said they couldn't since they were a corporate backed company. My question is if I were to have them install it could i find the wire and do this myself fairly easy? If not does anyone in the Dallas/Fort Worth area know of a place that would be willing to do the install and take care of the e-brake wire as well? Thanks for your help, -Clay
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Posted By: actionjackson
Date Posted: December 26, 2004 at 8:22 PM
yes, even thought it is against the law, it is fairly easy to do, since im assuming you will be using this for show purposes only, i will tell you how. on the wire harness on the back of the avicn1 there will be 2 black wires(ground), and there will be a light green wire(ebrake wire), you will have to disconnect it from the parking brake they hook it up to and connect that wire to one of the black ground wires. just be careful driving and watching a movie is very dangerous
Posted By: Clay0011
Date Posted: December 27, 2004 at 1:35 AM
Thanks a ton, I dont plan on watching the movies while I just want people in my car to see  . -Clay
Posted By: wilsonck
Date Posted: January 11, 2005 at 10:50 AM
Clay0011 wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Pioneer AVIC-N1 and I am not experienced whatsoever with installing any kind of car electronics, so I have an install date scheduled with Tweeter on January 1st. I asked them if they could ground the E-brake wire or whatever so I could have the video playing while the car was in drive, they said they couldn't since they were a corporate backed company. My question is if I were to have them install it could i find the wire and do this myself fairly easy? If not does anyone in the Dallas/Fort Worth area know of a place that would be willing to do the install and take care of the e-brake wire as well? Thanks for your help, -Clay
Thats funny. I just had my AVIC-N1 installed by Sound Advice, owned by Tweeter, and I did not have to ask to have mine bypassed. They just installed it that way.
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: January 11, 2005 at 2:31 PM
The corprate answer for such a question is obviously going to be NO, but its gonna come down to the individual installer as alot of them will do it anyways because they can obviously just deny the whole thing and say you changed it if anything ever comes of it.
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Posted By: slammedb5
Date Posted: January 12, 2005 at 5:24 AM
I always install AVIC's with brake wire grounded. If not, customers come back and complain that they can't nav while they drive.
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Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: January 13, 2005 at 8:23 AM
at the shop i used to work at i did like two or three in dash units in the first week. they all came back and i thought my boss was gonna fire me. "my tv dont work dog" no one told me that i was supposed to bypass the safety features. in my area i only know of one place that actually hooks them up correctly
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Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: January 13, 2005 at 11:18 AM
It's all fun and game until someone gets hurt. Let just say there is a car crash and someone is badly hurt. Investigator finds out the cause of the accident was related to maybe some distraction like cellphone or maybe watching DVD. Further into the investigation they found out that it wasn't the cell phone but it was the distraction from the DVD unit. They find out that light green wire was grounded . Unfortnatly, the light green wire is not grounded to handbrake like it was suppost to. Going back to that someone badly hurt, well the family has request to take that person of lifesupport. I hope that someone wasn't me or one of your family or friends. I hope some of you get the drift. It is not a questions it this kinda stuff will happen but it just a matter of when this will happen. For all the professional install out there I think you guy hold a lot of responsiblity for preventing something like this from happening. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Posted By: Clay0011
Date Posted: January 13, 2005 at 3:02 PM
Okay I found the light green wire behind the unit in my dash, however from there i can't find where the wire is spliced into the brake wire. I know its not in the e-brake because to watch dvds i only have to put my tahoe in park. I drive a 2003 Z71 Tahoe so if anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate them.
Posted By: ichabodsteel
Date Posted: January 14, 2005 at 4:11 PM
I have the Avic-n1, my problem is the accuracy with or without the speed sensor connected. Its on a Toyota Sienna. Anyone out there have any suggestions? Thanks.
Posted By: Javelin3o4
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 1:12 AM
I only hookup the ebrake wire when customers are being a dick. I had one lady complain and got a kenwood indash with seperate TV Tuner, and dedictated sirius installed for free so i took the extra few mins out of my life to be a ass and hook it up. She was PO'ed when she came to pick it up cause i told her the ebrake had to be on to watch movies, I gave her the whole legality crap about mobile videos running in view of the driver while in motion then sent her on her way and told her if they wire is bypassed she voided her warranty on the entire install (writting that on the invoice of course). I just like to call it "installer revenge"
Posted By: slammedb5
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 5:04 AM
Ichabodsteel, accuracy in what? Location, speed? If your loc is messed up, check your ant or your reciver box. Is it mounted flat, with less then 10 degrees variation on either side? Is your ant 6 inches from window (I know it sounds gay, but per Pioneer instructions). Vehicle Dynamics has nothing to do with GPS, so if speed is off or not present, VSS is not hooked up. This will NOT affect GPS location. Check your sh!t before you drop bombs on AVIC N1.
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EK Civic
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Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: February 05, 2005 at 10:36 PM
My AVIC is right on par with my Garmin iQue when I check the speeds, and I never hooked the VSS up. I call myself lucky :)
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Posted By: TazExprez
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 11:09 PM
At my shop we always install all flip out TV's so that it can be viewed at all time. Customers would get very pissed if we didn't.
Posted By: surftribe
Date Posted: February 12, 2005 at 1:38 AM
| I grounded the green wire from the avh-p6600dvd to a black wire and also the green wire from the avic-88d the dvd works when driving and the GPS works but some of the featurs such as the destiation feature where you enter an address will not work. Any one have any idea what I need to do to get this working? I have installed this in a 97 taheo |
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Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: February 12, 2005 at 4:36 PM
The address search only works when you have the Navigation DVD in the unit
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Posted By: slammedb5
Date Posted: February 13, 2005 at 4:34 AM
"I have the Avic-n1, my problem is the accuracy with or without the speed sensor connected. Its on a Toyota Sienna. Anyone out there have any suggestions? Thanks" VSS on the N1 won't really help your accuarcy problems. N1 uses GPS for location, GPS uses satellite positioning, so if itsoff, try a new location for the ant. VSS is used for vehicle dynamics on N1. ------------- EK Civic
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Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: February 13, 2005 at 4:06 PM
^^ agreed. Where do you have the antenna positioned? Mine is located at the base of my windshield. It rarely gives me any problems with accuracy. But you may need to find a different mounting location for the antenna.
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Posted By: kcjames215
Date Posted: February 13, 2005 at 10:02 PM
My N1 is off too. I have the VSS wired correctly and the GPS antenna is on the back roof of the car. Intersections are off. Everything that deals with NAV is off. My speed accuracy is perfect. Please advise.
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05 Nissan Altima 35SE
2 12" Solo's
Pioneer AVIC-N1
Chrome Z Grill
Posted By: Rossco000
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 10:03 PM
I have a 1999 Jeep Gr Cherokee Ltd and had te avic installed by Best Buy, as an employee they were even more adimate about not bypassing teh parking brake as it was. I searched the net and found this site told me how. It was easy enough. I even installed a switch to to turn the functionality on and off, just in case i ever get pulled over. It was very easy, just run a line into the switch that would normally be going to the brake then run the ground from the switch into the ground. On it will make the dvd run, off it gives the standard message abot video veiw while drivig is prohibited. Any rocker switch from Radioshack does the job perfectly. I nestled the switch inside my center console.
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Posted By: Rossco000
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 10:04 PM
I have a 1999 Jeep Gr Cherokee Ltd and had te avic installed by Best Buy, as an employee they were even more adimate about not bypassing teh parking brake as it was. I searched the net and found this site which told me how to do it myself. It was easy enough. I even installed a switch to to turn the functionality on and off, just in case i ever get pulled over. It was very easy, just run a line into the switch that would normally be going to the brake then run the ground from the switch into the ground. On it will make the dvd run, off it gives the standard message abot video veiw while drivig is prohibited. Any rocker switch from Radioshack does the job perfectly. I nestled the switch inside my center console.
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The Dude Abides....
Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 3:25 PM
How "Off" is your accuracy? Mine is within about a car-length, or two, which to me is pretty damn good for a moving GPS unit. My Garmin iQue is about the same. The speed reading with the Dynamics, and ETA calculations are pretty much on all the time, unless I have reallllly poor reception (rarely). I mean, any GPS is going to be off by a few yards/meters anyway, just the nature of them.
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Posted By: kcjames215
Date Posted: February 25, 2005 at 4:24 PM
CharlzO wrote:
How "Off" is your accuracy? Mine is within about a car-length, or two, which to me is pretty damn good for a moving GPS unit. My Garmin iQue is about the same. The speed reading with the Dynamics, and ETA calculations are pretty much on all the time, unless I have reallllly poor reception (rarely). I mean, any GPS is going to be off by a few yards/meters anyway, just the nature of them.
Mine is off about 3 to 4 car lenths. I was sure if that is normal or not. My VSS is right on target. Just checking. thanks ------------- 05 Nissan Altima 35SE
2 12" Solo's
Pioneer AVIC-N1
Chrome Z Grill
Posted By: kcjames215
Date Posted: February 25, 2005 at 4:26 PM
CharlzO wrote:
How "Off" is your accuracy? Mine is within about a car-length, or two, which to me is pretty damn good for a moving GPS unit. My Garmin iQue is about the same. The speed reading with the Dynamics, and ETA calculations are pretty much on all the time, unless I have reallllly poor reception (rarely). I mean, any GPS is going to be off by a few yards/meters anyway, just the nature of them.
Mine is off about 3 to 4 car lengths. I wasn't sure if that's normal or not. My VSS is right on target. Just checking. thanks ------------- 05 Nissan Altima 35SE
2 12" Solo's
Pioneer AVIC-N1
Chrome Z Grill
Posted By: SpudGunMan
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 9:38 PM
few things for this post, since the goverment owns the technology that allow GPS to work, i have read on a lot of technical articles about the "accurecy" of consumer GPS, from my common knowlage that sometimes during heightened periods of political issues they will make the consumer singnal in accurate. also the N1 jsut has the parking break lockout roumer has the N2 is going to make this not "hackable" with a internal gyro unit that will lock out DVD
Posted By: Two_Cold
Date Posted: March 02, 2005 at 1:09 AM
Any of you people here who ground the parking brake wire instead of connecting it to the Parking Brake please read.
Be advised that you could be held responsible in the event of an accident if it is believed that the driver was watching the unit while driving.
You could also be sued for something as simple as the driver getting a ticket for watching the unit while driving.
Please check with a lawyer in your area if you are doing this.
That being said... we always connect the wire and show the owner where it is and advise them that they can do what they want with it, but we have to install it properly. We have never had a customer get mad over this issue.
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