pioneer avic-n2
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Forum Name: Mobile Video, GPS, and Navigation
Forum Discription: Mobile Video Head Units, DVD Players, LCD and TFT Monitors, Navigation, GPS, PS2, PS3, XBox, etc.
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Printed Date: May 19, 2024 at 10:27 PM
Topic: pioneer avic-n2
Posted By: armedic71@sbcgl
Subject: pioneer avic-n2
Date Posted: March 17, 2005 at 9:34 PM
how do you keep the screen on all the time. The screen comes on when you stop, but goes off when you are moving because of the speed scense hook up. Is there any way to over ride this
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donny stewart
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 18, 2005 at 2:09 AM
Not at themoment. This is the new system to deter video playback in the view of the driver.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Asmodeus
Date Posted: March 18, 2005 at 4:30 AM
Man that sucks....I never have figured out why the companies put the restrictions on there like that one..Wh do they care what people do with them....Put the E-Brake wire in there and let it be.....If someone chooses not to hook it up correctly then the company cant be held liable...They cant twist someones arm and make them follow the law although that is what they seem to be trying to do with the N2.... I see a lot of people not buying that unit for the very reason of losing their choice..... I really wonder how long it will be till a bypass module is released... -------------  Making the World A Louder Place
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 18, 2005 at 8:40 AM
The reason is because if liability. Even if the company take all the precautions to ensure safety while driving & someone learns to bypass it and gets hurt...... they are at fault. You gotta love the judicial system . BTW: It's not only Pioneer that is doing this. It's Alpine as well and soon enough everyone else will follow the big two. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: JoshV
Date Posted: March 18, 2005 at 11:42 PM
I really dont understand why they are doing this. The new C6 Corvette doesnt limit its speed to 80mph to help ensure safety. Some people are always going to be brake laws its a simple fact.
Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 3:46 PM
Very well put. Pioneer this year is the first to go to these extremes, but you will see everyone following in line either this year or next. As for the mention of Chevrolet not limiting the speed of the C6, the police can do that for someone who doesn't know right from wrong. It is hard to catch someone driving with a monitor on in the dash. Therefore companies are starting to help cure the problem while protecting themselves, the dealer/installers and the end user. And besides, someone will find away around it. Hell, one of my dealers called me Saturday to tell me they figured it out.
Posted By: duramaxkiller
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 5:49 PM
some insight on bypassing would be appreciated... 
Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 6:17 PM
I read an article about how we are just 1 or 2 major accidents away from some serious laws being passed against in vehicle video systems. This is was kind of an eye opener for me. It made me realise that it was for my own saftey. I maybe a safe driver with video in my car but the kid in the lifted Cadillac behind me with the 15" in the dash may not be.
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Posted By: duramaxkiller
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 6:24 PM
I understand the what if issues here...But I paid a lot of money to watch when I want...I have an NI and installed the
n2 east disk into it now I have the Warning Signs Popping up in DVD and TV mode and also locks some menu options in NAV Mode while in motion ...Thats why I am pissed...I just want it the way it was...its one thing to have working and not use it but its another thing to have an KNOW it won't work...
Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 7:42 PM
But you are pissed for the wrong reason. You are pissed because it is working the way it is SUPPOSED to. Pioneer never intended for us to watch TV/DVD while we were driving. Pioneer also never intended for the N1 or N2 to be sold as a video system first and a navi second. As a matter of fact, Pioneer considers that unit a Navi catagory peice when it comes to dealers quotas. I personally think any dealer that installs any frontseat video so you can watch while you drive should be out of business. I discourage my dealers from doing it. Now I will be the first to say mine is bypassed, but I did it myself. There is nobody to blame but me. I installed my best friends N1 and refused to bypass anything. I made him do it. Now there is nobody to blame but him. Dealers are out of their minds if they think they can't be sued for bypassing the safety switch if someone gets in an accident. And 5150 said it best. No matter how safe you are that does not mean the next guy is that safe.
Posted By: duramaxkiller
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 9:50 AM
Not disagreeing with the post on the next guy being a safe driver, but I would still like to be able to edit my NAV while driving . I do a lot of towing and being able to switch routes when a customer cancels is nice..There are a
lot OF US using these units for Work.
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 6:13 PM
Unfortunately Pioneer deemed it unsafe to be able to edit/search addresses while driving. Unfortunately it affects those who rely on the nav for business but we are the few. I personally see it as a reason to stop for a drink.
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Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 6:43 PM
I use my N2 for work probably as much if not more than anyone(4 State Territory). Yes it will be a setback at first, but after a while I will probably get used to it. Keep in mind that Pioneer will not be the only company going to this type of lockout. Pioneer is one of the trend setters, not followers. The other 4-5 companies will get on board and follow suit on this very soon. The thing that makes this bad is people have become programed to rush, rush, rush. Everything is on the go. When I am travelling I hit the drive thru and eat while I drive. Phone call? One of my 2 cell phones. We don't take time to stop anymore and it is the way of life for most of the working class. We are always on the go and don't like the fact we have to stop, or in this case pull over and program our new or next destination.
Posted By: duramaxkiller
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 9:39 AM
fixed haha good luck w/ yours....... 
Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 9:57 AM
Congrats. Did you actually bypass it or did you do the rear out into the camera input?
Posted By: Asmodeus
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 4:35 PM
I would say he put the rear output into the Reverse cam Input.... Pioneer pretty much sealed this one up...At least for a while...Eventually someone will find a bypass for it....Its just like everything else...It was created by man so it is falible.... ------------- Making the World A Louder Place
Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 5:33 PM
Goddam you guys figured it out already huh... I guess the end to all this crying is near.
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Tell the Snap-On guy I'm not here!
Posted By: jazmill7312
Date Posted: March 25, 2005 at 12:16 PM
Yo, duramaxkiller... What's the scoop? I am figuring that you can use the rear camera inputs for the video. How are you tricking the unit into thinking it's in reverse, or does it matter? I just bought the system and I have been holding out on installing it until I find the bypass route. I did speak to AAMP and they only have the bypass for the AVIC N1. I would also think that there is some way to "Downgrade" the software to the N1. Anyone know? Please do tell... 
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Posted By: batangascebujam
Date Posted: April 11, 2005 at 12:58 AM
need help.... got the switch isntalled by the shop to see the movies but when i reach certain speed it is block again. this is for avic n2. anyone got any idea? thanks... ------------- batangascebujam
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