AVIC-N1 Software Downgrade
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Forum Name: Mobile Video, GPS, and Navigation
Forum Discription: Mobile Video Head Units, DVD Players, LCD and TFT Monitors, Navigation, GPS, PS2, PS3, XBox, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=52267
Printed Date: May 01, 2024 at 9:14 PM
Topic: AVIC-N1 Software Downgrade
Posted By: Asmodeus
Subject: AVIC-N1 Software Downgrade
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 12:53 AM
OK....I have a customer who purchased an AVIC-N1.....He recently upgraded the software and as we all know now you cant watch DVDs while moving with the new software.... What I am trying to do for him is downgrade the unit...he said he tried resetting it by letting it sit unplugged overnight and it did not work... I have googled for this and cant find any info....I am gonna contact Pioneer tues if I find no answer...If someone knows how to unload the software please let me know...I am not really familiar with this unit so any help is appreciated.. This guy has my cell phone number and I dont know how he got it and he is calling me freaking out wanting to know how to fix his prob...This pisses me off cuz I never give out my num and he is bothering me on a sunday night...Now I gota get my number changed... -------------  Making the World A Louder Place
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Posted By: FYRHWK1
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 1:51 AM
To my knowledge, this must be sent out to pioneer to be done, according to my sheets at work. I suppose it actually changes the OS, making it check signal from the gyro and the parking brake wire, not just the brake wire.
Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 7:46 PM
How did he upgrade the software already? The upgrades are not supposed to be out until May/June.
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 9:53 PM
I highly doubt Pioneer will help him because of this problem. Unless the unit is doing something it ISN'T supposed to do then he is SOL. Tell him to either buy another one that isn't upgraded or tell him to be legal.
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Posted By: Asmodeus
Date Posted: March 21, 2005 at 11:32 PM
12V_REP wrote:
How did he upgrade the software already? The upgrades are not supposed to be out until May/June.
I have no Idea....I am not familiar with this unit or anything about the upgrades...I couldnt get him to come to my shop today so I could look at the unit so I have no idea what his prob is...I didnt install it and I am wondering if it worked from the beginning...I am still steamed about him calling me at 10pm Sunday night.... As for everyone else...Thanx..I will let him know what I think as soon as I see him if I can keep my cool and not cuss him out.. ------------- Making the World A Louder Place
Posted By: Customautomotiv
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 2:01 AM
I heard throught he grapevine that amp of america has a bypass out for it........dont know how ....i heard it from my distributer...try it out........i would like to know how you got the software upgrade.....i cant even get the n2 yet! but pioneer is going to loose a lot of business because of their saftey concerns......and for those who want updated maps for their N1......they are gonna be SOL.....especially if they want to watch movies while they are driving
Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 7:42 AM
Custom, I have the N2's in stock and ready to ship. What area are you in? As for the Bypass from Amp. I figure someone will make one for it since I think it was Bliztsafe that made an Alpine one.
Posted By: jtrevill
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 10:37 AM
Anyone have a web address for "Bliztsafe" or "Amp of America". Thanks!
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 6:10 PM
AAMP of America
Blitzsafe
Both "links" were found on the left hand menu in the link labeled "links".
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Posted By: jtrevill
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 6:35 PM
Thanks for the links... sorry i didn't see them there!
Posted By: azq2421
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 6:45 PM
the update is on pioneers website on the left side say mandatory update for avic n1 owners
Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 6:54 PM
That is mot the same thing. That is an upgrade for the N1, the CNDV-40M, not the new N2 software "upgrade". Pioneer sent out a memo saying the new CNDV-50MTP would not be available until June.
Posted By: honda4x4nut
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 9:27 PM
I am guessing that the AVIC-D1 will be the same kind of lock-out device. I would like to know how to bypass this as well but i did not see anything on there but you need to log on to view the catalog but its only for dealers. SOOOO if any one has a clue on how to do it would be great help, as my girlfriend will be getting this unit soon. Thanks again
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Posted By: 12V_REP
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 10:22 PM
Nothing to see online. Pioneer would not offer any suggestions anyway, they don't want it bypassed. The N2 works thru G-Scope, Speed Sensor and the E-Brake. You might bypass one, but not all 3.
Posted By: homer1
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 5:51 PM
The AVIC-D1 will have the same lockout - I had a chance to play with a prototype for a couple days. Note on the D1, it does not play DVDs - 2 drives, CD for audio & DVD-ROM for the nav data disc. Any video has to be sent to it thru AV or backup camera. If you disabled the gyro and/or the speed sense, you would affect the accuracy of the unit WHEN it is not recieving GPS, i.e.."dead reckoning". I too was informed that we were at least 1more month out for the CNDV-50 upgrade discs set & was told it would change the video lockout to be like the N2/D1. With all the 'expeletive deleted' lawers out there that are willing to sue anyone for anything, I'm actually surprised it took PIONEER this long to start this... I agree it would be nice to input new destintions, etc.. while moving, but you know someone - somewhere, will be working the nav, not pay attention & rear-end someone or hit a pedestrian. Then EVERYBODY sues PIONEER - the victim, the family, the person driving the car that wasn't looking('not my fault' defense). Stopping to work the unit is really the best thing to do. As for as video, remember - it is illegal in most states to have 'video entertainment ' where the driver can see it. Liability statements, waivers for the customers to sign - you can and will still get sued if something happens. Sorry about the rant - but I don't want see anyone get burnt... ------------- Experience gained is directly proportional to the amount of equipment destroyed - break it & learn!
Posted By: Ballerinstaller
Date Posted: May 18, 2005 at 5:32 PM
I have used the upgrade sent to me from Pioneer after I registered my N1 and after I updated my unit, I still had dvd capability whilst driving. I accidently put my old disc into my n1 and the screen showed that it was updating the software again??? Maybe it reverted to the older version. Unfortunately after I put my new disc back into the unit, all I had was a blinking cursor that said : Starting Pioneer navigation......... It never turned on again. It keeps on asking for the "proper disc". After calling Pioneer help, I got a rep that told me to send the unit in. Being a tech and having a hookup at Bestbuy, I exchanged the head first, but the error was actually in the hideaway box with the gyro. After that got swapped out, I was back online. BTW, I would have had the whole kit and kaboodle exchanged, but the NEW head unit refused to open and extend the screen properly. Now if only Pioneer would put a timer and a odometer in the performance guage screen so we can see our quarter mile speeds and times..... Has anyone had any luck with hacking the navigation screens and Icons? I'd love to make my own. I tried to replace the sounds with my own .wav files, but they are ignored by the operating system. ------------- Pioneer Avic-N1
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Posted By: rabenoja
Date Posted: May 22, 2005 at 11:35 PM
As for downgrading the software, the only way to do it is to send the unit in. I've talked to the pioneer techs and that's what they said. If that's the only reason for sending it in, they won't do it...at least the tech that I talked to won't do it. Also, he told me the turn around time for the service would be at least 8 weeks!!! It'll probably be easier to sell that unit and buy another one that hasn't been upgraded yet.
Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: May 24, 2005 at 7:07 PM
where can i get this upgraded software? i just registered my avic-n1 and have no idea where to get it
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Posted By: Ballerinstaller
Date Posted: May 25, 2005 at 10:23 AM
Pioneer will send the package to you as a thank you for regestering your unit.
Just go to Pioneerusa.com and look under the car category. Choose Navigation and then look for the yellow box in the bottom left hand of the screen and follow the instructions.
If you already did this to register, Pioneer will drag their feet for about 5 months and send you your discs. I bought my N-1 in October and I got my discs in March.
Good Luck!
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Polk EX series in factory locations
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Posted By: wilsonck
Date Posted: May 25, 2005 at 6:34 PM
That link just says they'll send you version 1.1, which came with my unit. How are people getting version 1.2 in the mail? I have not received that one.
Posted By: Micro64
Date Posted: June 05, 2005 at 12:25 AM
I need to do this too. Does anyone know how to? I really need a light on this.................
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: June 05, 2005 at 12:59 AM
Micro64 wrote:
I need to do this too. Does anyone know how to? I really need a light on this.................
First, you have to send it to pioneer with around $300. Second, they won't downgrade it in the first place unless there is something wrong with it, which in anycase they will still probably send it back with updated firmware. ------------- Certified Security Specialist
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