Alpine latest navigation fall of 2005?
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Topic: Alpine latest navigation fall of 2005?
Posted By: BoominRolla
Subject: Alpine latest navigation fall of 2005?
Date Posted: October 15, 2005 at 4:47 PM
Has anyone installed the new alpine navigation yet? I want to get it and install it this winter into my car any one have instruction manuals online? Or reviews about it? The reason I want alpine is cause I'll get a deal on it and I have the iva-D900 headunit... so any help is appreciated! THANK YOU!!
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Posted By: CTOH
Date Posted: October 15, 2005 at 10:07 PM
My rep told us its not releasing till the end of October which may actually mean Jan of 06! 
Posted By: ssnds
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 8:17 PM
about how much will that be runnin? will i be able to use that with the IVA-D310? ------------- SSounds
Posted By: CTOH
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 8:03 PM
03impalla wrote:
about how much will that be runnin? will i be able to use that with the IVA-D310?
I think retail is probably about $1700 and yes it will,,,
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: October 22, 2005 at 2:22 AM
does anybody know what the difference is between alpines current nav unit and the new one that is supposed to be coming out? (in detial, if you can?). i suspect that once this new one comes out, youll be able to find the current ones on ebay for a dime a dozen and im wondering what i would benefit by spending top dollar on the newest one, or getting the current one for half price on ebay  thanks in advance!
Posted By: ssnds
Date Posted: October 22, 2005 at 9:21 AM
hmm.. i wonder what the differnce is from the even older navi's compared to the i think its the 852a... i know u can get the older ones on ebay for a bill.. ------------- SSounds
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: October 22, 2005 at 11:49 AM
03impalla wrote:
hmm.. i wonder what the differnce is from the even older navi's compared to the i think its the 852a... i know u can get the older ones on ebay for a bill..
i mean, im sure the actual software is a little better. and it is more updated. but you can get updates for the previous years nav systtems too (like the cd's with all the new roads on there, and new businesses). aside from that, im not sure what the difference is. i heard something about the new one being voice activated. big deal. i could care less about that
Posted By: BoominRolla
Date Posted: October 31, 2005 at 5:09 PM
Thought last years was voice activated too? I think a big change is the 3d imaging of certain selected large cities... It may help with navigation in real time if you can see a 3d image of the buildings you're near... Other than that I haven't sat down with the books side by side and compared... So dealer cost will be??? hahaha -------------
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: November 01, 2005 at 12:30 PM
Bad news BoominRolla, the NVE-N872A will NOT be compatable with your D-900.It only works with the D-300 and D-310. The main differances between it and the 852 will be better software package and the use of XM's streaming traffic and weather. When will we see it? God only knows. I was promised , without question before the end of Sept. 30 day delay. End of Oct., release date moved to Nov.I will be very surprised if we see it before Xmas. And yes retail is $1700.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: November 01, 2005 at 4:29 PM
tcss]B wrote:
d news BoominRolla, the NVE-N872A will NOT be compatable with your D-900.It only works with the D-300 and D-310. The main differances between it and the 852 will be better software package and the use of XM's streaming traffic and weather. When will we see it? God only knows. I was promised , without question before the end of Sept. 30 day delay. End of Oct., release date moved to Nov.I will be very surprised if we see it before Xmas. And yes retail is $1700.
great info. one quick question: is the NVE-N852A is the newest nav that we are waiting to be released, correct? also, is it NOT compatible with the IVA-D901? is that what your saying? or is it just not compatible with the OLD 900 model?
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: November 01, 2005 at 5:02 PM
No the NVE-N852A is the one that is being replaced. It is compatable with the D-900 and the D-901. In early 2004 it got a software upgrade, if your looking at a used one make sure it has the upgrade. The new model is the NVE-N872A. It will only be compatable with D-300 and D-301.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: November 01, 2005 at 5:52 PM
tcss] wrote:
It will only be compatable with D-300 and D-301.
do you mean the D-300 and D-310, not the 301, right? cause im looking into getting the new nav and the 310 head unit.
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: November 01, 2005 at 6:18 PM
Typo, D-310. Blame NIFS ( numb installer finger syndrome ) Excellant choice on the screen, of all that we sell I like the D-310 best.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: November 01, 2005 at 6:51 PM
tcss]T wrote:
po, D-310. Blame NIFS ( numb installer finger syndrome ) Excellant choice on the screen, of all that we sell I like the D-310 best.
i appreciate all your info tss. i really like the 310 as well. my buddy has the 901 and the clarity is amazing. obviously due to all the pixels. i cant decide which to get. i am leaning towards the 310 though not only because its cheaper, but because of the touch screen. i was wondering why you like the 310 better than the 901? i figured youd have a much better backed opinion than i do. can you tell me what you like most about the 310? thanks for your help!
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: November 02, 2005 at 11:33 AM
I've always liked the D-901, but Alpine has discontinued it and I've long since sold out of them. Here's a couple of points on the D-310. First I'm not a large touch screen fan, I'm constantly needing to clean the screen. Second, a great plus is it has a display so you can use the thing with the screen closed. Recently in So. Cal. law enforcement has started to pull anyone with an open screen over at night. It doesn't matter if you were illegally watching a DVD or not, they say they THOUGHT you were and then procede to check license, reg, insurance, BREATH because they had a reason to pull you over. Not a fun thing if you had a glass of wine with dinner. Also if you get Alpine's 420i I-Pod adaptor the D-310 scrolls thru much faster then the D-300.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: November 02, 2005 at 1:15 PM
tcss]A wrote:
so if you get Alpine's 420i I-Pod adaptor the D-310 scrolls thru much faster then the D-300.
oh yea, i was wondering about the 420 ipod thing - my friend has it and says it sucks. says its really slow and you pretty much have to create a ton of playlists to avoid having to do too much scrolling through songs. he says also the onscreen interface is clumsy as well. not easy to navigate like using the actual ipod is. i was wondering if this is true or not (he isnt that smart when it comes to electronics, so i figure youd know better). btw, he has the 901 head unit. (not sure if the 310 is better fitted for the ipod interface than the 901) also, on alpines website, it says that the 901 has ai-net. however, it doesnt say this about the 310. im guessing the 310 doesnt have ai-net in this case?? does this mean no cd changer for me if i buy the 310?
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: November 02, 2005 at 3:03 PM
The third letter in Alpine's model number let's you know whether it is "A" for AI net, "M" for M-bus or "E" for economy, so it is AI net. The D-310 is much better for scrolloing thru songs on the 420i.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: November 02, 2005 at 4:47 PM
tcss]T wrote:
e third letter in Alpine's model number let's you know whether it is "A" for AI net, "M" for M-bus or "E" for economy, so it is AI net. The D-310 is much better for scrolloing thru songs on the 420i.
im loving this! im learning a ton from you tss thanks again
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: November 09, 2005 at 7:33 PM
installed the alpine 310 head unit tonite. i LOVE it. i sure cant wait til i am able to get my hands on the new nav. anybody use it yet and have any comments?
Posted By: nchohmi
Date Posted: November 16, 2005 at 6:53 PM
that is not the model number of the new nav unit. It is the 872A and I have it! Its great. Im not sure whether it will work with the D900 but I have the IVA-D310 and it works well, has voice command, real time 3d nav, XM traffic and weather, and i bypassed the video lockout with no problems!
Posted By: dragracing
Date Posted: November 16, 2005 at 8:28 PM
I just bought one on ebay 1475.00 shipping included works awesome best navigation out there by far. I have used the eclipse,pioneer and the kenwood Alpine nve-n872a is not in the same league.. here is the link for the vendor on ebay.. shipped same day payment was made..
Posted By: cwolfey
Date Posted: November 23, 2005 at 5:16 PM
tcss]B wrote:
d news BoominRolla, the NVE-N872A will NOT be compatable with your D-900.It only works with the D-300 and D-310. The main differances between it and the 852 will be better software package and the use of XM's streaming traffic and weather. When will we see it? God only knows. I was promised , without question before the end of Sept. 30 day delay. End of Oct., release date moved to Nov.I will be very surprised if we see it before Xmas. And yes retail is $1700.
FYI The NVEN872A DOES work with the IVA-D900/901 and the CVA1005 also for that matter, by saying its not compatible you mean no touch screen operation I hope I have hooked it up to the D901 and also in the manual it lists all connection diagrams for every Alpine screen made. It has alot of awesome features and works perfect with the D901
Posted By: soundzplus
Date Posted: November 23, 2005 at 9:13 PM
dragracing wrote:
I just bought one on ebay 1475.00 shipping included works awesome best navigation out there by far. I have used the eclipse,pioneer and the kenwood Alpine nve-n872a is not in the same league.. here is the link for the vendor on ebay.. shipped same day payment was made..
Thats a good deal ... But wanna hear the downside .. ? The money you saved ... will need it to fix it if it breaks .. since there is no warranty on units bought off Ebay .. Call Alpine and ask ... there are NO authorized "ebay" sales .. ------------- Soundz Plus, Inc
Complete Custom Car Audio
Warrenville, IL
Posted By: alpine0000
Date Posted: November 23, 2005 at 10:07 PM
soundzplus wrote:
dragracing wrote:
I just bought one on ebay 1475.00 shipping included works awesome best navigation out there by far. I have used the eclipse,pioneer and the kenwood Alpine nve-n872a is not in the same league.. here is the link for the vendor on ebay.. shipped same day payment was made..
Thats a good deal ... But wanna hear the downside .. ? The money you saved ... will need it to fix it if it breaks .. since there is no warranty on units bought off Ebay .. Call Alpine and ask ... there are NO authorized "ebay" sales ..
we dont need to call and ask. thats common knowledge. we all know there is no warranty on ebay purchases. thats the tradeoff most of us are willing to take to save a few hundred dollars on each piece of equip. i, however, am buying mine from a shop. not for warrany purchases, but because i used to be an installer there and im still good friends with the owner. he still gives me employee discount baby! hehe. i think im picking mine up friday. i cant wait!
Posted By: nchohmi
Date Posted: November 25, 2005 at 10:47 AM
One of the things I've noticed that I wish I could change is that you cannot change the color of the maps on this nav. I would like to have the background change to black at night as I have seen on some factory installed units, this one just doesn't do it....
Posted By: scratchy
Date Posted: November 30, 2005 at 4:03 PM
I just picked one up on ebay to replace my old 852. First off, I chose a seller that has a lot of feedback and who was also offering a 1 year warranty through them. So what if they're not authorized. As long as they're willing to repair the item over, I'm happy. I like that the 872 has a USB and pcmcia slot for future upgrades. I'm looking forward to what Alpine has to offer. I too would like the black background for night driving such as is offered in the newer Kenwoods and Pioneers. Maybe future software upgrade? As for differences, the 872 has much sharper, better detailed graphics. The car icon flows smoother. It has pictures of buildings on downtown maps, arrows on streets that indicate one way. The touchscreen feature is great. It can pick up 12 satellites vs 8. Uses the same wiring as 851/852 (easy plug & play replacement - except you'll have to run the new voice microphone), points of interest are easier to find. There are some other minor perks... The only thing that became worse is the sound quality of the voice prompts. they're ok, but not as clear and realistic as the 85X. I'm also not sure that I like that the software was created by Microsoft!! Crashes anyone? (xbox360, windows....) As for upgrading from an older gen, I'm indifferent. You can pick up a used one on ebay for about $700-$800, or the new one for $1500. If you have an 852 or 851, you could hold onto those for a while longer and just update the software. By the way I have extra copies of the latest DVDs, PM me if needed. I heard authorized dealer cost on the 872s is $1060 - so they should drop a bit more over the next few months. Hope this helps! ------------- 2000 Honda CRV
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