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need battery, kinetik or odyssey?

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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 7:59 PM


Topic: need battery, kinetik or odyssey?

Posted By: delige
Subject: need battery, kinetik or odyssey?
Date Posted: March 06, 2010 at 3:38 PM

Need a new battery for my car,  not sure Kinetik is said to be good, Odyssey is apparently better? i duno need help asap please.



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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: March 06, 2010 at 8:48 PM
I was thinking of an other brand and was to suggest "standby....".

But IMO Odyssey are excellent - but this is based on my appraisal of their literature, and reading/hearing of others' experiences. And I'm not saying that there are not cheaper equivalents nor the same by re-labelled batteries.   

Whilst I was wary of Kinetic based on their site information (ie - lack there of), I cannot recall any bad appraisal, and there has certainly been a recent good one (see 12volt's What battery).

In terms of other brands (that you haven't mentioned), a common recurring comment was to get the Odyssey - it was well worth the extra money. But that did not involved Kinetik.
And regards another brand, I am awaiting data from one of their alleged Managers that mentioned certain conclusive testing. (I will be chasing this up during this next week - I stopped holding my breath several days ago.)

So no specific answer or recommendation for you, but hopefully a warmer feeling. And no specific price-versus-quality answer...




Posted By: litlred
Date Posted: March 07, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Check the Sears Platinum
Its an Odessey in disguise

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1998 Avalon, 1996 Blazer, 1986 4Runner




Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: March 07, 2010 at 9:32 PM
I've been using Odyssey batteries in my boat, truck and cars over the last few years and have been very happy. No failures to speak of. Can't say that about the Optimas.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: March 07, 2010 at 10:51 PM
Never had any issues with Optima, myself. Until I do, I'll continue to recommend them.

Optima.

Not to mention... Isn't Kinetik out of business?

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: March 08, 2010 at 4:35 AM
Oh no! Deja vu!

kinetik marine, automotive

Mind you, that has a number of replies that you (Haemo) can automatically dismiss as I did.


If not for my C:\ crash, I'd be contacting OptimaJim withing 24 hours to see if he able to supply the data he referred to.
Because of the crash, I may delay.
The impression I get is that whilst Optima were very good, that may have changed. But it could be due to less than normal users.




Posted By: vada_808
Date Posted: March 09, 2010 at 12:40 AM




Posted By: z03mz03m
Date Posted: March 09, 2010 at 7:59 PM
Optima! I've sat in my car with the engine off listening to music on my new sys for ~30-60min repeatedly over the past few weeks and it still starts my car like its brand new every time.




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: March 09, 2010 at 8:48 PM
Wet lead acid! My battery does the same (as z03mz03m's; for 1/3rd the price).




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: March 19, 2010 at 9:04 AM
Sorry for BUMPing, but since haemphyst "has exceeded his inbox allowance"....   (Bluddy readers - stop PM'ing him! It's my turn.)

Dear haemphyst,
haemphyst wrote:

Never had any issues with Optima, myself. Until I do, I'll continue to recommend them...


Have you experienced other batteries as a comparison?
And if so - quality AGMs like Gates, Yuasa, or Odyssey? (Or crap batteries?)


I'll elaborate why later... or I can resend the PM before then....




Posted By: audiolife
Date Posted: March 30, 2010 at 2:51 AM

My kinetik has lasted 5.5 years and is still going strong and I have had both odyssey (in the form of stinger) and optima. I would never go back to optima as I had one fail during Sound Quality judging at IASCA World Finals. My Odyssey was fairly good and rated to do more watts than my kinetik was but it would run low MUCH faster. Also kinetik is nowhere near going out of business, at Spring Break Nationals March 13-14th 2010 the 2 loudest vehicles by a WIDE margin used Kinetik. Infact Craig Butler put up the loudest score ever recorded at IASCA finals that weekend of 182.6 db. I have also used SVR and many other batteries as well.

https://www.termpro.com/asp/officialevent.asp?Eventid=11328&Method=11



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Ack!




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: March 30, 2010 at 3:06 AM
Alas I've had no meaningful response from Optima and I don;t think I will.
I was hoping to get the test results from OptimaJim's recent claim...

I'm still hoping to get some data for parallel connections since OptimaJim said that was no problems with Optima. I'm curious why an experienced company would say that, but OJim reckons Optima batteries have been performing well. If they never fail, then paralleling isn't an issue.


FYI - I have just installed my 10 year old Yuasa UXH-38 to replace my 8 year old wet. It's nice not having to hook in my aux battery after running out of fuel, or to crank the engine to get oil pressure after an oil change....




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: April 20, 2010 at 10:13 PM
Trivial update to close my last....

No data was supplied by Optima(Jim) including parallel batteries.

I have no reason to think that Optimas are any less unreliable than other batteries in parallel.
Of interest in this quest was doubt that paralleling 2 matched batteries (at least) doubled their unreliability (where the unreliability (figures) relate to the single battery's self-failure). But it's simple reliability theory....


And despite my initial doubts, it seems Kinetik are good. (And I have nothing to support that they are not better than Optima.... rats!)





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