02 Cavalier remote start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=64471
Printed Date: June 11, 2024 at 5:36 PM
Topic: 02 Cavalier remote start
Posted By: not_startin
Subject: 02 Cavalier remote start
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 8:26 AM
I hooked up a new remote starter in my '02 Cavalier 5spd.Everything seams OK (locks,trunk,flashing)but I CAN'T get a tach signal.Or atleast I can't get it to learn the tach.What am I doing wrong?I have never had a problem like this before...I also tried a different starter (2 different startes-same car-same problem).Is there somewhere else to be hooking this tach wire up to other than the "purple w/white stripe"?
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If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
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Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 8:28 AM
What kind of unit?
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Steve G
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 8:28 AM
I need the wiring for the 02 Cavalier but WITH the wiring for the clutch bypass.
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If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 8:31 AM
It is an extreme.I believe they are made my Pro-Start...
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If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 8:44 AM
model #
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Steve G
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:21 AM
Xtreme EX-1784 SH ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:37 AM
Have you tested the wire to see what the AC voltage is at idle? Have you tried Multi Speed Tach? Are the parking lights flashing 5 times for a failed start attempt?
Is it trying to start at all?
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Steve G
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:43 AM
I tried both tach learn meathods.The voltage at the wire i believe was ~6v a/c(I don't remember the exact #)I have not even tried to start it yet...but if I can't llearn the tach it is not much good to me.I'm sure it will start fine w/o it when its warm but winter gets as cold as -46 here so it will need the tach so it doesn't under-crank.
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If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:56 AM
Please give us the locations of the tach wires that you have used. If all else fails you can use the injector wire at the injector harnesses, use the uncommon colored wire.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:59 AM
If you are using the WHITE wire @ the PCM ....it is a 2 Cylinder Signal........
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MO
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You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 10:03 AM
The clutch wire is PURPLE (+) . There will be a yellow wire there as well and is located at the base of the clutch pedal along side the fire wall. As faras the wiring diagram you can go here: https://www.the12volt.com/info/diagrams.asp for the information. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 10:25 AM
Yeah you can try to use white like mo12v said or orange at the ignition control module.
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Steve G
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 2:26 PM
The wire I was using (according to the diagram) is the purple w/white stripe located in the engine harness.(Up under the lower rad hose,over the valve cover by the coils)
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If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 8:59 PM
So is this the right one?Should I hook it up somewhere else?
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If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 12:46 AM
You need to move the tach until you find a usable one. Don't just attach to the wire because we give you a color. Test it for the proper function and if it works then connect to it.
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Steve G
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 10:16 AM
On the manual remote starters....The door switch can get it outa' ready mode,and shut the car down etc if the door is open.Can this be bypassed?I know it is a "safety" feature,but it is a stupid one!Some of us do forget things in our cars and I don't want to have to go through the whole "ready" procedure every time I forget my smokes in the car. Xtreme EX-1784 SH ...And what is so unsafe about opening the door in the first place? ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 1:01 PM
While in ready mode....to open the door, just remote start the car.....you don't need to get back in and do the whole safty "set-up thing" again. At least thats the way my astro works...... Why the doors are monitered is, open the door, put the rig in gear, hit remote start and of it goes. If the door has been opened....no starty -------------
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 3:37 PM
what model are you installing?
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Steve G
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 4:35 PM
iskidoo wrote:
what model are you installing?
Xtreme EX-1784 SH ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 12:23 AM
Is there any magic I should know about with an '02 Cavalier 5spd install?I have the starter wired I just need to bypass the clutch and hook up the tach wire (White,PURPLE / black,or injector wire?)Does a Cavalier have a 2 wire clutch switch or 4 (I don't know what to look for)?And how do I hook it up? ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 1:01 AM
What are you puttin in it? clutch bypass is pretty vague..........
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Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 1:19 AM
KarTuneMan wrote:
What are you puttin in it? clutch bypass is pretty vague..........
It's listed in my post...'02 Cavalier 5spd.It is an extreme starter (not that it matters). Thanx ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: dualsport
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 1:45 AM
He asked what you're putting in it, not what you're putting it in.. 
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 3:34 PM
Everyones advice has been awsome...I have my Extreme r/s installed now,and it even works. The only prob is it over-cranks.I tried reprograming the tach 5or6 times.it still overcranks.I tried normal tach learning and automatic tach learning.It learns the tach both ways but still it overcranks. I have the tach wire conected to the white wire (goes to the coil) in the engine harness.This seemed to be the only wire that it would pick up the tach sig with.The only thing I noticed is that when it starts,the gauges don't come on and I am wondering if this could be a problem.I double checked the wiring and my ign. wire is correct so.... This is a '02 Cavalier 2.2ltr 5spd.(soon to be at the bottom of the river with this r/s) ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 3:35 PM
It is an extreme starter (not that it matters). Is this unit 5 speed safe.....(and yes it matters) -------------
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 3:38 PM
It is 5spd safe...I took extreme1's advice and it is now installed and working...sorta' Thanx ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 4:31 PM
...it is over cranking. tried reprograming the tach 5or6 times.it still overcranks.I tried normal tach learning and automatic tach learning.It learns the tach both ways but still it overcranks.I have the tach wire conected to the white wire (goes to the coil) in the engine harness.This seemed to be the only wire that it would pick up the tach sig with.The only thing I noticed is that when it starts,the gauges don't come on and I am wondering if this could be a problem.I double checked the wiring and my ign. wire is correct so.... ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
Posted By: not_startin
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 6:37 PM
Anything I should be triple checking?? ------------- If it ain't broke...Maybe it should be!
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