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csb41502 
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Posted: July 22, 2008 at 10:36 AM / IP Logged  
i guess i didnt make it exactly clear.i have nothing in my car.no remote start,no pkg4,nothing.my problem is my car has the passkey3 and it is seriously screwed up.my car wont even start.i bought it for a few hundred dollars and am not even able to drive it..i wanna use the pkg4 if i can to bypass the passkey unit in the car so i can start the car.some people said it might be possible to do that to trick the car into thinking the passkey is disabled.
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Posted: July 22, 2008 at 12:12 PM / IP Logged  

pkg4,need to start to program? - Page 2 -- posted image. NOW I UNDERSTAND!

Try this:

Put a battery charger on the vehicle's battery then procede with the following.

1) If the key is on a key chain, remove it so that it's by itself in the ignition barrel. Turn key to IGN position.

2) Attempt to start, if it fails, leave ign key ON - do not turn key OFF.

3) Wait 10 minutes til security light turns off in instrument panel.

4) Turn key OFF. Wait 5 seconds.

5) Repeat steps 2 to 4 up to three times.

6) When you have done step 4 at the third attempt, start the car.

That key should start the car.

In the future, if you have a SpeedPass or other transponder key on your keychain, remove them. Transponder keys should be alone or with non-transponder keys.

If you still have problems in the future, then follow JWorms suggestion:

JWorm wrote:
The brown wire needs to go to a wire that shows (-) whenever the ignition is ON. Connect a relay as follows:
86 - ignition wire in main ignition harness. Should be pink. Not to be confused with the pink wire in the PK3 harness
85 and 87 - ground
30 - brown wire of PKG4
The PKG4 does not require programming, so hopefully it will work and the car will be able to start. We have no idea if it will work though. You could have other problems preventing the car from starting, like a messed up BCM.

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csb41502 
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Posted: July 22, 2008 at 12:24 PM / IP Logged  
that dosent work.the light never ever stops blinking.i have changed everything to do with the ignition system(ignition switch/harness,3 different passkey modules,tumbler,key)nothing has helped.thats why i wanna hook up the pkg4 to trick the car into thinking the passkey is off.some people said this is possible and worth a shot
Big Dog 
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Posted: July 22, 2008 at 12:32 PM / IP Logged  
Yup. Try what JWorm suggested using the PKG4.
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Posted: July 23, 2008 at 9:29 PM / IP Logged  

if you changed passkey modual and key the car won't start, they need to reprogrammed in, start with all orginal stuff.

Did you check the 10 amp fuse that powers the system?

Big Dog 
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Posted: July 24, 2008 at 7:37 AM / IP Logged  
You know, that's not a bad idea at all to check the fuses. In fact there are two 10 amp fuses related to the Passkey. Both 10 amps. One is labeled PASSKEY (B+ with key off) and the other is ECM (powered with ignition, key on).
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csb41502 
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Posted: July 24, 2008 at 8:08 AM / IP Logged  
i checked all fuses.those are all fine too.i will put back the original passkey module and key cylinder back in and then hook up the pkg4 and hope it works
csb41502 
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Posted: July 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM / IP Logged  
ok.little update.i got the pkg4 .connected everything as i should have including the relay like jworm said,and no go.car still wont start and security light still on.i dont even hear the relay click.is it supposed to click?what would happen if i unplugged the passkey harness?
JWorm 
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Posted: July 25, 2008 at 6:35 PM / IP Logged  
The relay will definately click when you turn the key ON, and click again when you turn it OFF. Did you test the ignition wire that you connected to 86?
csb41502 
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Posted: July 25, 2008 at 6:39 PM / IP Logged  
the relay dont click at all.i even put the wire from 86 straight to batt and still no click.all i read to ground on every single pin is continuity.
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