chrsall troubleshooting

anyone?

Charge your battery, otherwise did you even program the bypasss chip?

Hello, battery is fully charged, vehicle starts fine with key....bypass and r/s fully programmed, just sounds like the starter is receiving less than the full 12 volts req'd to crank as the solenoid just clicks rapidly. I took the 12V source from the ignition plug (blue/red) as per the enclosed Directed wiring diagram, but I notice the wiring diagrams for this vehicle (2006 Dodge 1500) on this site recommend taking 12V battery from an alternate source. Any thoughts on this welcome....

If you had an issue not grabbing the right 12V wire your car would have a blown fuse, I usually grab 12V in the driver kick at a blue plug above the giant wire mess. I think it is a WHITE/ tan 10ga wire. After looking over your post move carefully and looking at the CHALL instructions I think I found your problem. 1. Your blue/red wire which is pin 1 in the 5 pin harness at the ignition switch should ONLY go to 86 on the relay. This wire should read 12V during crank, IGN, ACC, and resting. 2. Pin 2 of your same 5 pin harness at the ignition switch should not be connected since there is NO + starter for this vehicle. 3. Pin 4 of the same 5 pin harness should be your MUX wire. It is the PURPLE / brown. You HAVE to cut this wire in half. The ignition switch cut half to pin 87A on the relay. And the car side of that wire to pin 30 on the relay. 4. WHITE/ black on the CHALL harness should go to the final pin of the relay which is 87. 5. Last your blue/white wire from your remote starter also known as the (Ground when running wire) should be connected to pin 85. This is what triggers your relay when you are trying to remote start it. That SHOULD get your starter working. As for your parking lights/hood/horn are they working perspective? Because the colors you mentioned are unfamiliar to me. However I could not find a manual for the Xstart unit you are using.

Yimke, thanks very much for your reply.....spoke to one of the techs at Directed's help line, and he suggested that the install instructions may be incorrect. Advised me to try taking 12v from source other than blue/red at ignition harness, so I'll try the white /tan in driver kick that you suggest. The parking lights/hood/horn are all functioning as they should, and the way the relay is wired is exactly as shown in enclosed instructions for vehicles with a positive starter wire...years 2004-2006. There is another page in the instructions titled "Vehicles 2007 and higher, without a positive starter wire" Understand from your post above #2 that this vehicle has no + starter? Possible I am using the wrong application in the instructions?  I couldn't find a copy of this install manual anywhere online to refer you too.....would it be helpful if I could scan and attach? Thanks

Your relay wiring description is totally different from what I was trying to describe to you. Please verify that is the same as what I wrote above or looks like this is the install guide CHALL install guide As for the 12V at blue/red pin 1 you can leave it connected to the relay. As long as your main 12V wire from the brain is connected to the WHITE/ tan wire I described you should be fine. Because if you are using + parking lights the blue/red wire can only supply 20A, which is not safe IMO. Just better to grab it at the blue plug which can handle above 50A.

Yimke, thks again for getting back to me on this issue......yeah, I know the relay wiring that I'm describing is totally different than what xpresskit shows for their stand alone CHALL module. Don't think I'm permitted to upload an image at my present rookie member status, but I can certainly e-mail you or anyone else a copy of the install wiring diagram if you'd be willing to have a look at it. You mentioned in your last post "as long as your main 12V wire from the brain is connected to....", the instructions don't call for any 12V connection to the remote starter itself, the only 12V battery feed is to the relay 86 & 87. Also, there is no cutting of the Mux wire, it is shown to go directly to WHITE/ black of the CHALL module. Anyway, had another go at it tonight, double checked all wiring/connections but moved the 12V off of the ignition plug to the WHITE/ tan wire you mentioned but still no luck....and I was mistaken in the post above when I said that it sounded like the starter solenoid clicking over when it tried to r/s, it's actually a relay of some sort located directly underneath the underhood fuse panel. Vehicle attempts to r/s but when the starter should be cranking, this relay just rapidly clicks....cranks fine when started with key, and no problem doing a remote take-over when running, so the bypass would appear to be working properly. Starting to think I should disregard enclosed instructions and rewire the relay the way you illustrated above! Thanks again for all your time and effort...

Directed tech help now recommending flashing the CHALL (10.2) and firmware update for the xstart module....will post back with results.

Updates help sometimes, but usually not on older vehicles like this, but it is worth a shot. It definitely would be helpful if I had a instruction manual for the XKEY. Can you send me a photocopy of the wiring diagram via e-mail to my work. I will be there around 2pm Central time. PM'd E-mail address.