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criper

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Posted: October 02, 2010 at 6:42 AM / IP Logged

I'm looking to install a Python Responder One remote start in a 09 Nissan Rogue (it does not have push button start). I've seen posts touting the following bypass kits, but i'm wondering which I should purchase: the xpresskit XK07-PKN3, or the iDataLink ADS-AL CA.

This will be my first remote start install, so i'm hoping to keep it as simple as possible.

Also, what's the difference between ADS-DLSL CA2 and ADS-AL CA, am I right that the CA2 is preloaded with the right software for my Rogue, where i would need to have the CA flashed?

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Posted: October 02, 2010 at 8:37 AM / IP Logged

The DEI XK07 would need to flashed with the PKN3 firmware using the XKLoader cable.

The iDatalink ADS AL CA would need to be flashed with the ADS AL(DL)-NI firmware using the ADS USB cable. While the ADS DLSL CA2 can come pre-loaded with the ADS DLSL-NI firmware, it can also be flashed with many other vehicle specific firmwares so ensure you get the correct firmware on it.

I have seen ads for re-sellers that will flash any firmware on to the module after purchase and prior to shipment.

Another option you might not have explored is the Fortin CAN-SL2 bypass module. It comes pre-loaded with the correct firmaware. The Fortin EVO-ALL is another option but more expensive. If you don't want to buy the DEI or iDatalink programming cables or can't find a place that will do it for you, the Fortin modules are the best choice.

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Posted: October 02, 2010 at 9:42 AM / IP Logged

As a first timer you should probably go Idata simply due to the great installation intructions they provide. Car specific, well laid out...

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criper

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Posted: October 02, 2010 at 9:56 AM / IP Logged

Great install instructions is a huge plus for me.

What about the XK07's D2D port. It looks like that should make hooking up to the Python remote start easier right?

Mark Mizenko

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Posted: October 02, 2010 at 8:23 PM / IP Logged

ADS module. Very simple vehicle. If it's a regular key, ....super simple.

If it has the intellikey, you'll need to interrupt the intellikey module behind the mirror control.

And a relay at the IPDM under the hood. Simple 4 wire relay hookup, assures no "funky cranking"

criper

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Posted: October 04, 2010 at 10:41 AM / IP Logged

ADS module sounds like the way to go.

About the IPDM relay, is that needed if I have the standard key and not the intellikey?

Since we're on the topic of relays, are there any other relays, diodes or anything else outside of what comes in the starter and bypass kits that will be needed?

criper

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Posted: October 12, 2010 at 8:09 PM / IP Logged

I purchased the ADS and had them flash it before shipping.

I'm reviewing all the connections that are needed, and noticed a wiring harness that came with the ADS-AL-CA that looks like a D2D to idatalink connector. Can that be used in place of a wire-to-wire hookup between the bypass and a Python Responder One remote start?

Mark Mizenko

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Posted: October 12, 2010 at 9:26 PM / IP Logged

Yes! But I'm not going to help troubleshoot any problems you have.

Theres what? Like power, ground, ignition, and status wire connections, 4 wires?

Save yourself some possible unpredictable problems and do it W2W. I may get beatup over this comment, but I'm just trying to make the install easy for you, without some wierd problems.

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Posted: October 12, 2010 at 9:47 PM / IP Logged

X2 Take Marks advice, go W2W. xpresskit or idatalink? -- posted image.

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criper

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Posted: October 13, 2010 at 8:09 AM / IP Logged

ok ok. W2W it is. :)

There are 6 wires actually.

- Ground, not a problem.

- Arm & disarm, connect to the arm & disarm on the remote start.

Now the questions begin.

- Trunk, It doens't have a trunk release, i'm guessing, just cap it?

- 12v, is this a constant 12v, or ignition? connect to output from remote start, or ignition switch?

- Ground (output when running), i have no clue on this one.

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