I love your theory. It sounds on par with floridaspl's level of expertise. And their logic.
My theory is that your
goal to "
... NOT Discharge the batteries as much as possible" is irrelevant. It is the implementation and reality that counts.
Besides, floridaspl say you MUST have those batteries, therefore they are being used and discharged.
Right?
Another theory is that you are not loading them (hence not cycled) as evidenced by your voltage readings.
I hypothesise that you are also not loading anywhere near the 4kW we were discussing and designing based on your criterion.
The storage and the temperatures you describe
should have no effect on them. Their voltage should only drop by (say) 0.1V after a few months.
Your reasoning for more batteries to de-stress the batteries is sound (pun intended), but what choice do you have...?!
You did as many "audio" forums advise and got more batteries instead of a copious alternator. What can I say? (See NOTE.)
But all this battery stuff is total crap anyway. To quote a floridaspl 8,000 poster (with that count I assume they have knowledge?), they "
lost maybe 2 tenths from 13.8 to 11.9 v"... - ie, they only lost ~20% of power from 13.8V to 11.9V. (It's over 1/4 or 25% in reality, but who cares?)
And another reckons "
... a drop in voltage means no difference in output..." which is true if amps were
constant power loads like most SMPS equipment.
However, from the specs for your and others amps, they are resistive devices - their power output is proportional to the input voltage (squared).
[ BTW - I love how the latter later wrote "
A drop in voltage would only create a larger draw of amps. The problem is you can't supply the larger draw of amps and this is why you have a loss in output...". Oh my dear Poos & LOLs - that cracked me up! But they were a mere sub-400 poster after all. And that stuff is very confusing to the inexperienced, and still difficult to explain...
]
NOTE - the above is what I can say.
Have your theories, but maybe keep them off-site - maybe on floridaspl where they belong for now.
Come back when you have solid experience to report - there is no use arguing beliefs against reality unless you want retorts like "I wrote you so..... MANY times!" (Like others I usually refrain. Certainly in my case it's hard enough controlling the fits of laughter. Or - alternatoratively - the tears.)
Meanwhile I wonder if floridaspl figured out whether a cap stores current or voltage? And whether a cap's voltage is ever higher than the wiring & equipment it is connected too - they certainly make it sound like it is - but it is a
sound forum!).
(I was surprised to read that only big caps hold their "zap"!)
But I suppose audio forums like floridaspl will continue to not only counter the experience and logic of others, but also contradict their own writings and logic. (Here we have differing opinions and priorities/tacks but technical contradiction are rare.)
Who sponsors them?
Meanwhile floridaspl post counts mount up by people that repeat what managers or experts from elsewhere claim - except that what was said is misquoted or twisted out of context (if it ever was said LOL).
It's like sharks being afraid of dolphins and AGMs being ok to supply big current.
But lots of medicos, battery suppliers, and other support people make money off those that can't know any better. Being into Quality (more so Demming than Darwin) doesn't mean I should risk livlihoods.
I guess you still don't know where the 100AH per kW comes from? If floridaspl had the experience to back it up, they'd be using caps instead. Or are they referring to battery reserve time?
I wonder what BigBoi would say? But maybe others haven't been exposed to REALLY big systems and thence know why a cap is needed... I still reckon the 100AH/kW is some twit's misunderstanding of the 100A for 1kW rule. Honestly, if they meant 100AH per 1kW, they would be specifying Farads! (Or did I kill that one too by asking up-time?)
And you don't know the difference between a stand-by battery and a cyclic battery???
With luck I'll see you about one month after you start using your system when mobile with at least 1kW output; and after recharging your extra batteries once a month at home.
Thanks for the monthly update, but until you complete the system, a simple "still progressing" might be shorter.
rfhvhtoo wrote:
...13v the entire time (they are stand by batteries so we kind of expect that right?) |
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WRONG! (ie - wrong reason.)
rfhvhtoo wrote:
And with the alternator charging the batteries up to 14.0-14.2 are they being Discharged at all? especially if the current draw is below the rating of the alt? |
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LOL! Should I even bother answering?
Or can you explain why an alternator would be up around 14V if it can't supply the current?