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02 Pontiac Grand Prix, Viper 5704


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alexp1289 
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Also does it matter where I hook up the main Power for the alarm? doesn't have to be hooked up directly to the battery or can I choose any 12 volt constant wire? And then ground it to somewhere in the dash? I'm just not sure if or what wires will always be powered on even if the cars not when it's locked. sorry for the simple questions but I just want to make sure I don't make any mistakes the first time.
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Red and RED / white at ignition loom, split the load, i.e. 2 to one and 2 to the other.
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Does anybody have a diagram for the satellite relay? And which way do the diodes go?
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The 10 pin connector has a flex relay already on it isn't that the same thing?
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This is all I need help on I need more details.
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Not sure what you mean by "satellite relay".  If you are referring to the extra relay

for the cars Brown ACC2 wire, it was given previously.
ACC2 external relay ( 30/40 Amp SPDT ) if needed  :
Relay Pin 85 to ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT ( from Viper )
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant fused at 20 Amps
Relay Pin 30 to Brown ACC2 wire at Grand Prix Ignition Harness
Relay Pin 87A not used - insulate
The 1N400x diode would be added between Relay Pins 86 and 85 with the band towards Pin 86.

If you are referring to the Vipers Flex relay that will be used for the cars IGN2 wire,

it was included in the previously listed Viper H3 wire connections :
Viper H3 harness wires              2002 Pontiac Grand Prix Ignition Harness
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT           Pink
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGN 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87        Red ( or RED / White )
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT Orange
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)            Yellow
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)                  Yellow
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT     Red  ( or RED / White )
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT          White
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A  FLEX RELAY                N.U.
H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT          Red  ( or RED / White )
H3/10 NC (no connection)  NC

Here is a picture of a generic GM vehicle with similar wires / colors in the ignition harness :

02 Pontiac Grand Prix, Viper 5704 - Page 5 -- posted image.

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alexp1289 
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I thought you said something about using diodes on 1 of the wires or else I will throw transmission trouble codes? that's on trying to figure out is the specific send anything that I can look at to make it easier to understand.
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Not sure but I think that info came from Howard. 
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I might have had the wrong info, it may have been Ford vans! On my original diagram I showed the diodes in-line with the orange to 85 rather than across the relay coil.
In practise I do both.
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OP diodes were to quench relay back EMF nothing to do with DTCs.
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