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pentavolvo 
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Posted: March 08, 2014 at 9:45 AM / IP Logged  
I would do a key in box bypass and tie into key sense wire so it will work with any key
roadglide2459 
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Posted: March 08, 2014 at 11:28 AM / IP Logged  
Ok guys,
First - thanks for everyones input thus far. Think I'm going to go with the Viper 5204 and idatalink ADS-AL-CH6 in a W2W mode with the following connections.
Anyone seeing anything wrong - please let me know. Also, does anyone know where the Dome Light wire is?
Viper 5204 and idatalink ADS-DL-CH6 (flashed)
Main Harness 6 Pin
H 1/1     Red-(+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - Ignition Switch Harness - Red - 12 Volt Constant     
H 1/2     Black-(-) CHASSIS GROUND - Suitable Ground
H 1/3     Brown - (+) SIREN OUTPUT – To Siren in Engine Compartment
H 1/4     WHITE/ Brown - PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relay -Not Used
H 1/5     White -PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT – Pink/Red – At Steering Column
H 1/6     Orange-(-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT - Not Used
Door Harness 3 Pin
1     Blue-(-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT - On idatalink Black 10 pin plug the Blue/Black Input wire goes to the Blue wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector.
2     Empty
3     Green-(-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT - On idatalink Black 10 pin plug the GREEN/ Black Input wire goes to the Green wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector.
H2 Harness - 24 Pin
H 2/1     Pink/White (-)200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/2     Blue/White (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/3     RED / White (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/4     BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT - ???
H 2/5     Dark Blue (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT - Connect to idatalink Bypass GWR Input
H 2/6     WHITE/ Black (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/7     WHITE/ Violet (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/8     ORANGE / Black (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/9     Grey (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC or NO) – Must be connected to Hood Pin
H 2/10     Blue (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR (N/O) – To 2nd 3 Pin (Bypass Harness) – Yellow/Red – Trunk Status (-) Output.
H 2/11     WHITE/ Blue (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT - Not Used
H 2/12     Violet/White TACHOMETER INPUT – Black wire at one of the ignition coils
H 2/13     BLACK/ White (-) Neutral Safety Input - Suitable ground
H 2/14     GREEN/ Black (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT - Idatalink Bypass (Brown Wire B10/4- DISARM ONLY INPUT) goes to H 2/14 Input (Factory Alarm Disarm Output)
H 2/15     Green (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT - To Bypass (Yellow/Black) Door Status Output
H 2/16     BROWN / Black (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT – GREEN/ Violet – Steering Column
H 2/17     Pink (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/18     Violet (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT - Not Used
H 2/19     Violet/Black (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/20     Brown (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT – Must be connected to WHITE/ Tan wire At Brake Pedal
H 2/21     Violet / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT – To Bypass Starter Input (+) B10/8 BLACK/ White
H 2/22     Grey/Black (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT - Not Used
H 2/23     Orange (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT – 30/40 AMP SPDT relay for Pink / YELLOW Acc wire (see note 1 below)
H 2/24     GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT – Not Used
Remote Start (H 3) 10 Pin
H 3/1     Pink (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT – Pink wire at Ignition Switch Harness
H 3/2     RED / White (87) FLEX RELAY (+) 12V INPUT (30A Fused) – Red at Ignition Switch Harness (12V Constant)*
H 3/3     Orange (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT – Pink / YELLOW wire at Ignition Switch Harness
H 3/4     Violet (+) STARTER OUTPUT (Car Side of Starter Kill) - Ignition Switch Harness – Lt. Blue/Red (+) Car Side (cut starter wire)
H 3/5     Green (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF STARTER KILL) - Ignition Switch Harness – Lt. Blue/Red (+) Key Side (cut starter wire)
H 3/6     Red IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) – Red wire at Ignition Switch Harness (12V Constant)*
H 3/7     Pink/White (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT – Not Used
H 3/8     Pink/Black (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT - Not Used
H 3/9     RED / Black ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) – RED / White wire at Ignition Switch Harness (12V constant)*
H 3/10 NC Empty
Note 1
Extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay for Pink/White ACC wire :
Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/23 ORANGE (-) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to Red (+12V constant) - Red at ignition harness or battery through 30 Amp fuse*
Relay Pin 30 to ACC wire @ ignition harness (There are 2 Pink/White wires – make sure it’s the heater wire instead of the radio wire)
Relay Pin 87a not used
*12V constant (load) wires in the main ignition harness Red or run heavier gauge wire directly from battery and connect all 12Volt Constant loads
Bypass Harness 4 Pin
B 4/1     Blue/White GWR (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - H 2/9
B 4/2     Empty
B 4/3     Black GROUND - Suitable Ground
B 4/4     Red 12 v (+) - Ignition Switch Harness - Red (+) - 12 VOLT Constant
Bypass Harness 10 Pin
B 10/1     GREEN/ Black LOCK/ARM (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - On idatalink (Black) 10 pin plug the GREEN/ Black wire goes to the Green wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector
B 10/2     Blue/Black UNLOCK/DISARM (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - On idatalink (Black) 10 pin plug the Blue/Black wire goes to the Blue wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector
B 10/3     RED / White TRUNK (-) INPUT – to H2/3 or Blue/Green or Lt. GREEN / WHITE. Lrg. White Plug above Drivers kick panel
B 10/4     Brown DISARM ONLY - The brown wire goes to your GREEN/ black - FASD (Factory Alarm Shutdown Disarm) wire H2/14
B 10/5     Purple / YELLOW LEFT SLIDING DOOR - Not Used
B 10/6     PURPLE / Black RIGHT SLIDING DOOR - Not Used
B 10/7     White - Not Used
B 10/8     BLACK/ White – To H 2/21 Violet / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT (For Second Start Feature)
B 10/9     Green - Not Used
B 10/10 PURPLE / White TACH OUTPUT – Not Used – see H2/12
Bypass Harness 3 Pin
B 3/1     WHITE/ Black – Pin 4 @SKIM (Cut wire and connect other end to B7/7 Pink Ignition (+) Input
B 3/2     WHITE/ Red – to B7/7 Pink wire on bypass
B 3/3     White – Not Used
Bypass Harness 3 Pin (Second 3 Pin Harness)
B 3/1     Yellow/Black DOOR STATUS (-) Output - Viper Brain (H 2/15) Green Wire
B 3/2     Yellow/Red TRUNK STATUS (-) Output – Viper Brain (H2/10) Blue Wire
B 3/3     Yellow - Not Used
Bypass Harness 7 Pin
B 7/1     BROWN / Red – Not Used
B 7/2     BROWN / Yellow - Not Used
B 7/3     ORANGE / Black – Ground w/ OEM Alarm Only
B 7/4     ORANGE / White - Not Used
B 7/5     Orange     Data – SKIM Module – Pin 2 (top row from left)
B 7/6     Pink/Black - Not Used
B 7/7     Pink IGNITION (+) INPUT – Connects to WHITE/ Red on bypass - B3/2
autotamer 
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Posted: March 08, 2014 at 2:52 PM / IP Logged  
 does the viper  not have a dat protocol port ? I dont get why you anyone wouldnt do d2d less wiring , = less chance of making a mistake while bench wiring  and a clean install , and a lot more reliable unit imho  
roadglide2459 
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Posted: March 08, 2014 at 3:52 PM / IP Logged  
Hey Autotamer,
It does, and no disrespect, but everything I've read both here and on other forums indicates that newer vehicles ('08 and above) work very well with D2D wiring whereas older vehicles work much better with W2W.
I went the W2W route with my 03 GMC Sierra and it works flawlessly so I just thought I'd go that route with my daughters Jeep.
Appreciate your input.
-Rick
RoadGlide2459
autotamer 
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Posted: March 08, 2014 at 10:18 PM / IP Logged  
must be a viper thing ? i have done easily 25 libertys d2d , 0 problems ? to each there own just more work is all , didnt  i send you a pm for connections??
roadglide2459 
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 8:54 AM / IP Logged  
Autotamer,
Am not necessarily opposed to going D2D, and am certainly open to learning something new. I do have a few prerequisites though:
1.)      Would like to keep all functionality re: door locks, factory security system, perimeter lighting at arm / disarm.
2.)     Would like to have at least (1) Two way remote – doesn’t have to be LCD – LED would be fine.
3.)     Would like to keep the cost in the $150 – $200 range.
4.)     Would like to have clear, concise install instructions – as you probably know a lot of companies prefer their dealers do the install. Consequently their install instructions are marginal at best.
That said, am open to any suggestions you may have especially since it sounds like you are familiar with 06 Jeep Liberty installs.
Thanks for your reply.
-Rick
RoadGlide2459
autotamer 
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 12:45 PM / IP Logged  

ads-alca ar blade i delieve gives you lock , unlock, arm , disarm , hatch glass, door status , trunk status, tach , signal, e brake if a manual trans.  perimitter lighting is controlled via jeeps body controller once armed , and is two way compataible if you viper has a red data port

if i could get a diagram from the unit your installing , i could in fact virtual  wire it  abd send you a-email   compustar 6200 with rfg5 2 way rf kit ande blade combo would be a fit in that range. or an  astroflex astrostart  rs 721xr  1 button would be also but only one fob with astrostart

and only one two way 4 buttton and 1 1 way 4 button with rfg5 kit  

autotamer 
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 12:46 PM / IP Logged  
ill look up a diagram for theviper  5204 when i get a few more moments   
autotamer 
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 8:14 PM / IP Logged  
roadglide2459 wrote:
Ok guys,
First - thanks for everyones input thus far. Think I'm going to go with the Viper 5204 and idatalink ADS-AL-CH6 in a W2W mode with the following connections.
Anyone seeing anything wrong - please let me know. Also, does anyone know where the Dome Light wire is?
Viper 5204 and idatalink ADS-DL-CH6 (flashed)
Main Harness 6 Pin
H 1/1     Red-(+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT - Ignition Switch Harness - Red - 12 Volt Constant     
H 1/2     Black-(-) CHASSIS GROUND - Suitable Ground
H 1/3     Brown - (+) SIREN OUTPUT – To Siren in Engine Compartment
H 1/4     WHITE/ Brown - PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relay -Not Used
H 1/5     White -PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT – Pink/Red – At Steering Column
H 1/6     Orange-(-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT - Not Used
Door Harness 3 Pin
1     Blue-(-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT - On idatalink Black 10 pin plug the Blue/Black Input wire goes to the Blue wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector.
2     Empty
3     Green-(-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT - On idatalink Black 10 pin plug the GREEN/ Black Input wire goes to the Green wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector.
H2 Harness - 24 Pin
H 2/1     Pink/White (-)200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/2     Blue/White (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/3     RED / White (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/4     BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT - ???
H 2/5     Dark Blue (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT - Connect to idatalink Bypass GWR Input
H 2/6     WHITE/ Black (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/7     WHITE/ Violet (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/8     ORANGE / Black (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/9     Grey (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC or NO) – Must be connected to Hood Pin
H 2/10     Blue (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR (N/O) – To 2nd 3 Pin (Bypass Harness) – Yellow/Red – Trunk Status (-) Output.
H 2/11     WHITE/ Blue (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT - Not Used
H 2/12     Violet/White TACHOMETER INPUT – Black wire at one of the ignition coils
H 2/13     BLACK/ White (-) Neutral Safety Input - Suitable ground
H 2/14     GREEN/ Black (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT - Idatalink Bypass (Brown Wire B10/4- DISARM ONLY INPUT) goes to H 2/14 Input (Factory Alarm Disarm Output)
H 2/15     Green (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT - To Bypass (Yellow/Black) Door Status Output
H 2/16     BROWN / Black (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT – GREEN/ Violet – Steering Column
H 2/17     Pink (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/18     Violet (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT - Not Used
H 2/19     Violet/Black (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT - Not Used
H 2/20     Brown (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT – Must be connected to WHITE/ Tan wire At Brake Pedal
H 2/21     Violet / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT – To Bypass Starter Input (+) B10/8 BLACK/ White
H 2/22     Grey/Black (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT - Not Used
H 2/23     Orange (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT – 30/40 AMP SPDT relay for Pink / YELLOW Acc wire (see note 1 below)
H 2/24     GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT – Not Used
Remote Start (H 3) 10 Pin
H 3/1     Pink (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT – Pink wire at Ignition Switch Harness
H 3/2     RED / White (87) FLEX RELAY (+) 12V INPUT (30A Fused) – Red at Ignition Switch Harness (12V Constant)*
H 3/3     Orange (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT – Pink / YELLOW wire at Ignition Switch Harness
H 3/4     Violet (+) STARTER OUTPUT (Car Side of Starter Kill) - Ignition Switch Harness – Lt. Blue/Red (+) Car Side (cut starter wire)
H 3/5     Green (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF STARTER KILL) - Ignition Switch Harness – Lt. Blue/Red (+) Key Side (cut starter wire)
H 3/6     Red IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) – Red wire at Ignition Switch Harness (12V Constant)*
H 3/7     Pink/White (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT – Not Used
H 3/8     Pink/Black (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT - Not Used
H 3/9     RED / Black ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) – RED / White wire at Ignition Switch Harness (12V constant)*
H 3/10 NC Empty
Note 1
Extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay for Pink/White ACC wire :
Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/23 ORANGE (-) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to Red (+12V constant) - Red at ignition harness or battery through 30 Amp fuse*
Relay Pin 30 to ACC wire @ ignition harness (There are 2 Pink/White wires – make sure it’s the heater wire instead of the radio wire)
Relay Pin 87a not used
*12V constant (load) wires in the main ignition harness Red or run heavier gauge wire directly from battery and connect all 12Volt Constant loads
Bypass Harness 4 Pin
B 4/1     Blue/White GWR (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - H 2/9
B 4/2     Empty
B 4/3     Black GROUND - Suitable Ground
B 4/4     Red 12 v (+) - Ignition Switch Harness - Red (+) - 12 VOLT Constant
Bypass Harness 10 Pin
B 10/1     GREEN/ Black LOCK/ARM (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - On idatalink (Black) 10 pin plug the GREEN/ Black wire goes to the Green wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector
B 10/2     Blue/Black UNLOCK/DISARM (-) INPUT - Viper Brain - On idatalink (Black) 10 pin plug the Blue/Black wire goes to the Blue wire on the Viper 3 Pin Connector
B 10/3     RED / White TRUNK (-) INPUT – to H2/3 or Blue/Green or Lt. GREEN / WHITE. Lrg. White Plug above Drivers kick panel
B 10/4     Brown DISARM ONLY - The brown wire goes to your GREEN/ black - FASD (Factory Alarm Shutdown Disarm) wire H2/14
B 10/5     Purple / YELLOW LEFT SLIDING DOOR - Not Used
B 10/6     PURPLE / Black RIGHT SLIDING DOOR - Not Used
B 10/7     White - Not Used
B 10/8     BLACK/ White – To H 2/21 Violet / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT (For Second Start Feature)
B 10/9     Green - Not Used
B 10/10 PURPLE / White TACH OUTPUT – Not Used – see H2/12
Bypass Harness 3 Pin
B 3/1     WHITE/ Black – Pin 4 @SKIM (Cut wire and connect other end to B7/7 Pink Ignition (+) Input
B 3/2     WHITE/ Red – to B7/7 Pink wire on bypass
B 3/3     White – Not Used
Bypass Harness 3 Pin (Second 3 Pin Harness)
B 3/1     Yellow/Black DOOR STATUS (-) Output - Viper Brain (H 2/15) Green Wire
B 3/2     Yellow/Red TRUNK STATUS (-) Output – Viper Brain (H2/10) Blue Wire
B 3/3     Yellow - Not Used
Bypass Harness 7 Pin
B 7/1     BROWN / Red – Not Used
B 7/2     BROWN / Yellow - Not Used
B 7/3     ORANGE / Black – Ground w/ OEM Alarm Only
B 7/4     ORANGE / White - Not Used
B 7/5     Orange     Data – SKIM Module – Pin 2 (top row from left)
B 7/6     Pink/Black - Not Used
B 7/7     Pink IGNITION (+) INPUT – Connects to WHITE/ Red on bypass - B3/2
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