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sierranevada40 
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I've been trying to add a dash mounted switch to my keyless system with aftermarket actuators. I'm using the Viper 211HV.
I used 2 relays to not backfeed +12v into the brain unit and ruin the internal relays (since they rest at ground). The switch was still not working though, so I did some diagnosing with my brain unit and found that I have continuity between my Blue/Black wire and GREEN/ Black wire while at rest.
Is this normal? The unit is brand new. If this is the case, my dash switch will not work the way I have it set up because I set up the two external relays for a negative trigger (either from switch or 211HV), but all the dash switch will do is send ground to each external relay since I'm getting continuity in the internal relays. I hope that all makes sense...
Thank you!
Here is the factory wiring diagram from DEI. Note- I'm not going directly to the actuators, going to ext relays first
DEI keyless internal relay -- posted image.
And here is how I currently have it wired-
Lock Relay:
#30 to actuators wire that is (+) to LOCK
#87 = B+, Hot at all times. (Fused)
#87a = Ground
#86 = B+, Hot at all times. (Fused)
#85 = LOCK trigger.
Unlock Relay:
#30 to actuators wire that is (+) to UN-LOCK
#87 = B+, Hot at all times. (Fused)
#87a = Ground
#86 = B+, Hot at all times. (Fused)
#85 = UNLOCK trigger.
On the 211HV:
H1/5 grn/blk = #85, LOCK relay.
H1/8 blu/blk = #85, UNLOCK relay.
H1/7 pur/blk and H1/9 pur = GROUND
Dash switch:
Use one pole of your DPDT center off switch.
Center pole = GROUND
One end pole = #85 of LOCK relay.
Other end pole = #85 of UNLOCK relay.
Circuit description:
Both poles of the actuators rest at ground at the relays' #87a. The relay coils are hot at all times on #86. Grounding one relay coil #85, causes that relay to connect B+ to that actuator wire, the other side is still grounded at the other relay.
Either the 211 or the dash switch can ground the relays' coil.
howie ll 
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Try this:- add_switch.png
sierranevada40 
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This is my switch setup. I'd rather not change any switches out, it's pretty finalized. I didn't realize it would be so difficult to add a dash switch to a keyless entry system.
DEI keyless internal relay -- posted image.
sierranevada40 
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howie ll 
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Admin, thanks.
Poster, that's your problem!
Go to the left of the gear selector then it won't look out of place.
I noticed 4th. from left a switch with a window logo, what's that for?
sierranevada40 
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howie ll wrote:
Admin, thanks.
Poster, that's your problem!
Go to the left of the gear selector then it won't look out of place.
I noticed 4th. from left a switch with a window logo, what's that for?
That is a door logo. That is my power lock switch, and will remain my power lock switch with some appropriate help from the 12v community. I am not rearranging my interior switch layout to add an additional power lock switch.
howie ll 
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Not my problem I showed you how to wire it.
sierranevada40 
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howie ll wrote:
Not my problem I showed you how to wire it.
LOL... I got it figured out.
I'd hate to see your car. You do what's convenient over what looks nice.
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